Acceleration of a block of ice - Dynamics

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a 10kg block of ice sliding down a frictionless ramp that is 20m long and inclined at 10 degrees. Participants are exploring how to determine the acceleration of the block using relevant physics principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to apply known formulas without a given force. Some participants suggest identifying the component of weight acting down the ramp as the relevant force. There are questions about the relationship between gravitational force and its components along the ramp.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to find the force component along the ramp. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the use of trigonometric functions and the relevance of ramp length in calculating acceleration and time.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the application of trigonometric functions to resolve forces, with some participants questioning the assumptions made about the components of force. The original poster is also navigating the implications of the ramp's length in their calculations.

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A 10kg block of ice slides down a ramp 20m long, inclined at 10 degrees to the horizontal. If the ramp is frictionless, what is the acceleration of the block of ice?

Struggling as to where to start, I have the formulae, just don't know how to use them.

Most of the questions I've encountered had a force as a given, so now I'm getting a bit confused here.

Would Ff = umg still be any good here?
 
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There is a component of weight acting down along the ramp, that's your force.
 
Would that be gravity?

Fg = mg = (10)(9.8) = 98N?
 
richievuong said:
Fg = mg = (10)(9.8) = 98N?
Yes, that's the weight of the object, which acts down. Now do as cyrus said and find the component of that force along the ramp, since that is the only direction the block can move.
 
So if gravity is "down", then to find the force along the ramp, it would be:

sin10 = 98/X
X = 564.36N (Force along the ramp)

How would I account for the 20m in ramp length? I think I'm supposed to find time right...
 
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richievuong said:
So if gravity is "down", then to find the force along the ramp, it would be:

sin10 = 98/X
X = 564.36N (Force along the ramp)
Rethink your use of trig. How can a component of a force be greater that the total force?

How would I account for the 20m in ramp length? I think I'm supposed to find time right...
To find the acceleration, the ramp length is irrelevant. But if you also need to find the time for the block to slide down the ramp, then you'll need the length.
 
I don't understand...Along the ramp meaning the slanted part right? Then wouldn't the 98N be the Y component because its down?
 
I think I got it:

Is it 98sin10 = 17.01N

F = ma
17.01 = 10a
a = 1.7m/s^2
 
Looks good to me.
 

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