Acceleration of the midpoint of a light rod

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The discussion revolves around the acceleration of the midpoint of a light rod in a physics problem involving forces and moments. Participants are analyzing the dynamics of a rod with attached masses and the implications of different mass values on the calculations.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the acceleration of the center of mass and the midpoint of the rod, questioning the mass values used in the equations. There is a discussion about the application of the moment of inertia and the forces acting on the rod.

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Some participants have identified discrepancies in their calculations based on the mass values used, leading to a reevaluation of the problem setup. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the mass depicted in the diagram, which has influenced the results. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and adjustments to the initial assumptions.

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Participants note the potential inconsistency regarding the type of connections (cords vs. rods) and the implications for the forces involved. The original poster's calculations were based on an assumed mass that differed from what was illustrated in the problem, prompting a reconsideration of the setup.

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I assumed the length of the rod to be ##6l## for simpler calculations . Here , $$a_{cm}=\frac{F}{m+2m}=\frac{F}{3m}$$
Here , CM is located at a distance of ##2l## from the ##2m## mass . Writing the moment equation : $$\alpha \times \left[ m(4l)^2+2m(2l)^2\right]=Fl\implies \alpha=\frac{F}{24ml}\implies \alpha l=\frac{F}{24m}$$ $$a_{\text{mid}} = a_{CM}+\alpha l=\frac{F}{3m}+\frac{F}{24m}=\frac{3F}{8m}$$ which doesn't match the answer key .
 
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If the rod is spinning about its center of mass, replace the masses with the tension developed in each bar (they say inextensible cords - but I don't think that is consistent ) in the FBD of the rod, and you should be using the thin rods moment of inertial about the center of mass then apply ## \sum \tau = I_{cm} \alpha ##

Scratch that, massless rod. Looks fine to me. Did you notice they put a mass of ##3m## in the diagram?

Another thing, maybe they do actually mean cords, i.e. they don't accept compression? It wouldn't hurt if you gave the answer they expect.
 
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My bad , the answer matches if I took the mass as given in the diagram , i.e, ##3m## instead of ##2m## . The answer turns out to be : ##\frac{F}{3m}## .
 
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Bling Fizikst said:
My bad , the answer matches if I took the mass as given in the diagram , i.e, ##3m## instead of #2m## . The answer turns out to be : ##\frac{F}{3m}## .
That's not your bad, it's their bad!
 
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