Achieve Nuclear Fusion By Splitting Atoms

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of achieving nuclear fusion by utilizing nuclear fission as a means to initiate the fusion process. Participants explore theoretical concepts, practical challenges, and the efficiency of current fusion methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using nuclear fission to initiate fusion by increasing the number of neutrons in the fission reaction to raise the temperature required for fusion.
  • Others argue that while fission can trigger fusion, it is the temperature from the energy released by fission, rather than the neutrons, that drives the fusion process.
  • A participant mentions that there is a minimal size requirement for fission chain reactions, suggesting that a large bomb would be necessary for this concept to work.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality and cost of using fission to achieve fusion, with some stating that it has been studied but deemed too expensive.
  • One participant notes that current fusion confinement concepts are inefficient, indicating that heating a plasma to the necessary temperatures is not the main challenge, but rather the design of an efficient confinement configuration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability of using fission to initiate fusion, with some supporting the idea and others challenging its practicality and efficiency. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of fission and fusion processes, as well as the unresolved nature of the technical challenges associated with achieving efficient fusion confinement.

Potopea Daniel
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Fusion energy is very efficient and clean,but it's very hard to achieve it.That's why I think that instead of wasting energy on starting the fusion reaction we could use nuclear fission to start the fusion reaction.

It's a simple concept:just let more neutrons in the fission reaction.
This will raise the temperature (hopefully) to the one required to achieve fusion.

This is a theoretical,untested concept.

I would like to hear what you think about this subject!
 
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Starting nuclear fusion using nuclear fission works. It's called a thermonuclear bomb. For verification, I recommend a field trip to Bikini atoll.
 
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There is a minimal size for fission chain reactions. The concept works, but it has to be a big bomb.
 
mfb said:
There is a minimal size for fission chain reactions. The concept works, but it has to be a big bomb.
And a tough,heat-resistant reactor as well...
 
Potopea Daniel said:
It's a simple concept:just let more neutrons in the fission reaction.
The number of neutrons release in the fission process is fixed, on average between 2 and 3, since each fission reaction can release 2 or 3 neutrons, with a small fraction (delayed neutrons) being released from certain fission products. One cannot increase the number of neutrons released from a given fission reaction.

Fission reactions can trigger fusion, but it is the temperature (from energy released by fission), not the neutrons that drive fusion, in addition to the high pressure involved. Such systems are initiated by prompt supercritical reactions, and are uncontrolled. Nuclear power systems are controlled, and not permitted to go prompt supercritical.
 
mfb said:
It has been studied, but it would be too expensive.
and just silly. There were also proposals for using thermonuclear detonations for mining or excavation. The problem would the fallout and activation of surrounding material.
 
Potopea Daniel said:
Fusion energy is very efficient and clean,but it's very hard to achieve it.That's why I think that instead of wasting energy on starting the fusion reaction we could use nuclear fission to start the fusion reaction.

It's a simple concept:just let more neutrons in the fission reaction.
This will raise the temperature (hopefully) to the one required to achieve fusion.

This is a theoretical,untested concept.

I would like to hear what you think about this subject!

Actually you have it backwards. The problem is that current fusion confinement concepts are too inefficient. Heating a plasma up to the temperatures needed to initiate fusion reactions is easy. We have been doing this for close to a century. The hard part is to design an efficient confinement configuration, that will capture enough of the heat from fusion to sustain the plasma at the desired temperature with minimal external heating.
 

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