Achieve the Unsaid: What We Were Never Told

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The discussion explores the concept of human potential and abilities that may remain untapped due to societal conditioning or lack of knowledge. Participants consider whether individuals possess latent powers, such as telepathy or future viewing, and the implications of not being aware of these abilities. The conversation touches on philosophical and psychological aspects of human capability, as well as anecdotal experiences related to these themes.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that humans may have abilities that they are unaware of, which prevents them from utilizing these powers.
  • Others argue that without knowledge of what one can do, even an open mind may not lead to the discovery of these abilities.
  • A participant references the idea that societal conditioning can limit creativity and exploration of possibilities, using analogies to illustrate this point.
  • Some express skepticism about the existence of certain powers, claiming that they do not exist and that belief in them is a form of self-deception.
  • There are discussions about historical figures, like Newton, who achieved great things independently, challenging the notion that all abilities require external guidance.
  • Participants reflect on the potential for misuse of any discovered abilities, suggesting that human nature may lead to both good and bad applications of such powers.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of analogies used to illustrate points, with some participants challenging the effectiveness of these comparisons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the existence and potential of human abilities. While some believe in untapped powers, others are skeptical and argue against their existence. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing views on the nature of human potential and the impact of societal conditioning.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on anecdotal evidence and personal beliefs, while others invoke philosophical concepts like Occam's Razor. The discussion includes various assumptions about human capabilities and the influence of societal norms, which are not universally accepted.

  • #31
tph666 said:
And the reason is nobody ever showed us that we had and could use these powers so we don't understand.I do wonder if 4000 or 5000 ago people knew how to use these powers.Well we would use them for more bad reasons than good anyway.


this statement is false IMO. I believe in general people do what we call bad things or evil things for 2 reasons
1.money
2.power
they need money so they can achieve there power but if one has the power that you speak of then you no longer have the need for money! the trick would be too get them to keep their attitudes positive rather then negative.
then you 4 billion GODS walking around Earth wanting to do something with there power. oh well, take it for what its worth! :cool:
 
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  • #32
Paul Wilson said:
@Comments of reading into the future: I believe it is completely capable by the human mind, but not intentionally. When you seek you can get lost, when you seek somewhere you've never been with no map, for something you don't know, you will definitely get lost. (Or we simply don't know what we're looking for) - Telepathy.

If we do read into the future, it is by mistake, not on purpose. I believe that is impossible to see the future by simply "doing so".


The whole concept of being able to percieve the future, to me, seems illogical. I may be wrong, and I'm completely open minded to that, but possessing the ability of percieving the future would indicate that the future is--somewhere, somehow-- already written. And that, to me, seems contrary to the free will that all humans possess. Having the ability to tell someone's past is, in my opinoin, not too illogical and, in fact, possible as it has happened before. Foreseeing the future, however, is something that I do not view as probable or possible.
 
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  • #33
Well, if one were to accept that the ability to perceive the future would eliminate the possibility of free will, then i must deny the existence of the latter; as i said before, i have experienced premonitions all my life, some of which have been undeniable clear and even proven by others.

I guess it would be interesting to discuss the possibility of both, free will and future perception, coexisting.
 
  • #34
Also. If you were to see into the future. You would maybe see something bad. You would do something to avoid this.

Thus. Changing the course of the future.

Therefore, there is no ability to see the future, as the future would depend on what you have seen "in the future" and how you go about it.

No?
 
  • #35
OutofPlace said:
Well, if one were to accept that the ability to perceive the future would eliminate the possibility of free will, then i must deny the existence of the latter; as i said before, i have experienced premonitions all my life, some of which have been undeniable clear and even proven by others.

I guess it would be interesting to discuss the possibility of both, free will and future perception, coexisting.

Interesting. Care to share some of those experiences?
 
  • #36
Raised in this Republic, that tries to parade around as a Democracy, we are raised with the idea that each of us can be a star, or a millionaire, or wonderful in some way. The potential is there. But what we really seem to want is this sameness and order, and predictability, for many reasons. As a group we don't really like to think that there are those that can read our minds, or know the future, or control our minds or have special abilities. Though we love meaty baseball players, and musicians, and models, these are all physical things, tangible things, that we can aspire to. The inner stuff, the intellect, or intuition, or brilliance, we all make use of those things that the inspired create. We are typing on machines, that most of us barely understand, because someone exceptional thought this up. Energy flies through the air, and comes to my cell phone, and my daughter is talking to me from a thousand miles away, water magically boils in my microwave. We take these things for granted, yet in many ways they are magic.

I think the world and the universe and their contents are completely in a state of flux, completely, though holding together because of the tendencies of inertia, or our lack of ability to fast forward the huge scene to watch it continuously falling apart and becoming something else. I think we are a part of that dynamic, on every level, there is no reason that we won't be picking up on the future, or things happening elsewhere at the same time, we do so mechanically in real time all the time. We are happening, just like the rest of the all is happening, and if we break out of our routine perceptions, sometimes there is brilliance or grace, or premonition. It is almost as if the cohesive river of our species moving into the future, needs for us to neither look backward or forward, to avoid some sort of stampede. I think of this as some sort of psychic inertia attendant to our species.
 
  • #37
Knowledge is much more easily attained than created
 
  • #38
i think that us as humans do not have to be told what we can and cannot do. if that were so, we would not be discussing this at the moment because our ancestors would have not survived. somethings were inevidably discovered(meaning humans doing somthing that was not done before) like the use of tools and language like the ABCs. On the contrary, language for example was created in many kinds of terms from Latin to Japenease. thease people did not have contact with each other in order to pass along information, but none the less they both had the same concept.
 

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