Actual yield determination by experiment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the actual yield of a chemical reaction through experimental methods. Participants explore how to measure actual yield, the necessary equipment, and the specifics of the reaction involving carbon, lithium nitrate, boron, and hydrogen.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that actual yield is measured rather than calculated, unless comparing it to theoretical yield as a percentage.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on how to measure actual yield under experimental conditions and what equipment is necessary.
  • A participant inquires about methods of measuring the amount of substance, suggesting a focus on measurement techniques.
  • Adrian specifies a reaction involving 1 gram each of carbon, lithium nitrate, and boron with excess hydrogen, seeking guidance on determining the actual yield experimentally.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of knowing the reaction equation and products before discussing yield measurement.
  • Adrian later identifies the products of the reaction as boron carbide, water, and lithium nitrite, but expresses uncertainty about the quantities produced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the methods for measuring actual yield, and multiple viewpoints regarding the necessary steps and equipment remain. The discussion is unresolved regarding the specifics of the experimental setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the assumptions regarding the reaction conditions or the specific methods for measuring yield, leaving some steps and definitions unclear.

Adrian Tudini
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Question: How does one determine the actual yield by experiment?
I am a chemistry newbie.
Hi

just one question. Can someone point to me some resources on how to calculate the actual yield under experimental conditions?

thanks.Adrian
 
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Actual yield is something that you measure, not calculate.

That is, unless you want to express it as a percentage of a theoretical yield, but then it is just a trivial case of doing stoichiometry and calculating percentage obtained vs expected.
 
Hi

Thanks for that.

How do you measure the actual yield itself under experimental conditions?

What equipment do you need etc...?

Thanks.
 
What methods of measuring amount of substance do you know?
 
10-100grams of Carbon , Boron, lithium nitrate (hygroscopic) + hydrogen (excess of)
 
Huh? What it has to do with any measurement?
 
Hi

Thanks for that.

Lets start over

i want to find the actual yield of this reaction:

Given 1 gram of Carbon, 1 gram of LiNO3, 1 gram of Boron + excess hydrogen, how do I determine the actual yield by experiment?

Thanks,

Adrian
 
First you need to know what is produced and what is the reaction equation. Listing some substances and calling it "a reaction" is - at best - a misnomer.
 
Thanks for that.

The above reaction forms Boron Carbide, water and Lithium Nitrite (LiNO2)

That is, 4B + C+ LiNO3+ H2 ->B4C + H2O+ LiNO2 (a voltage applied)

I do not know how much is produced of the products.

Thanks.

Adrian
 

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