Actuarial vs Economics: Kevin's Dilemma

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process regarding educational paths in relation to career opportunities in actuarial science versus economics. Participants explore the implications of choosing between a specialized actuarial program and a broader economics/math degree.

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  • Some participants suggest that the actuarial program is a better choice for securing a proper job, emphasizing its specialized nature in risk management and insurance.
  • Others note that actuarial coursework is highly specialized, which may limit opportunities in quantitative analyst roles that require more advanced mathematics.
  • A participant highlights that while an actuarial degree can expedite the path to becoming an actuary, it is not strictly necessary to enter the field.
  • There is a divide within the actuarial community regarding the value of an actuarial science degree, with some advocating for a statistics degree combined with exam preparation instead.
  • One participant, identifying as a statistician, argues that a solid foundation in probability and statistics is sufficient for becoming an actuary, suggesting a double major in economics and statistics as a viable option.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and value of an actuarial science degree compared to a statistics or economics degree. There is no consensus on the best educational path, and multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

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Participants mention various exams and their importance in the actuarial field, but there are no detailed discussions on the specific requirements or challenges associated with these exams. The conversation reflects a range of personal experiences and opinions, indicating a lack of definitive guidance.

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I have chance to go to a less expensive school (Westfield State) 40 minutes away or a more expensive school (UMass Amherst) an hour away. I am older and can not relocate due to family/job.

Westfield only offers an Economics/Math BA (which I had not thought much about).
UMass has an actuary program (which I was originally going to get into).

Whats the difference between the two, especially how they would translate into future work?




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If you want a proper job, the actuary program is clearly a better choice. By the way, the fields have little in common.
 
Actuarial coursework is extremely specialized. The area looks at risk management and has its roots in insurance (which is what most actuaries do - they do risk management for insurance companies).

The specialized nature can work in your favor if you really want to be an actuary or get analyst type roles in insurance or other forms of risk management. Just note though, that quantitative analyst positions may not take in actuarial graduates as the mathematics is not "advanced" enough (the math is hard but not as hard as the pure mathematical finance stochastic calculus, PDEs, and so on).

The advantage to the actuarial program is that if you do well, then you can basically get a few exams under your belt which will make you competitive to get an actuarial analyst role and this will give you an opportunity to pass more exams while working so that you can go on to full actuary status.

In summary I would just be aware of the specialized nature of actuarial work. You don't have to have the actuarial undergraduate to become an actuary - it just speeds up the process a little.

I'd recommend you look at the probability exam, the financial mathematics exam, and the stochastic calculus exams. If you think you can pass those then I think you'll have a chance. You should do the probability exam first and if you don't pass it the first or second time, then you should re-think your career choices.
 
there's a sharp divide in the actuarial community over whether an actuarial science degree is even a good idea. Some see it positively. Most think it's unnecessary. A few even look down on it.

Personally I'd strongly recommend a stat degree plus taking a few exams over an act sci degree.

I'm not that knowledgeable about economics job opportunities. I don't think they're terrible, but there are better options available.
 
Not an Actuarial here, but I am a statistician. I always felt that an actuary degree was a bit to specialized of a degree for a career field where what matters most is your ability to pass test. As long as the school offers a solid foundation in probability and statistics, and you spend the necessary time studying and finding internships, there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to become an actuary.

A good way to stay broad and employable would be economics and statistics as a double major. Just an idea.
 

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