Actuator on an accelerating body

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the power requirements of a linear actuator attached to a large accelerating body, specifically in the context of holding a box in place relative to that body. Participants explore the implications of acceleration, inertia, and power consumption in this scenario.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine the power requirement of an actuator while considering the acceleration of a large body and the inertia of a box it holds.
  • There is a question regarding whether the frame of reference is non-inertial due to the acceleration of the large body.
  • Another participant suggests that if actuator efficiency is ignored, no power is required, proposing that a rigid attachment could serve the same purpose without power consumption.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the power consumption of the actuator, arguing that it would still need to consume power to maintain position under load during acceleration.
  • A later reply indicates that the power requirement could be derived from the actuator's technical specifications, suggesting the use of an actuator that can lock in place without consuming power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the power consumption of the actuator, with differing views on whether power is required to maintain position under load and the implications of ignoring efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about ignoring air drag and actuator efficiency, as well as the dependence on the specific characteristics of the actuator used.

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Hello all, new member here. Signed up cause I am stumped by a physics problem.

I am trying to size a linear actuator. Basically I have a large body that is accelerating at acceleration in x direction. I have a linear actuator aligned in the x direction that is rigidly attached to the large body on one end and the other end is touching a box. The actuator has to hold the box (mass m) in place relative to the large body.

If the large body is accelerating at "a" till it reaches velocity "v", what is the power requirement of the actuator. For simplicity, I am ignoring air drag, actuator efficiency etc.

Attached image shows the setup.

Is this a non-inertial frame?
Is the actuator consuming power even if there is no motion (relative between actuator and box) because of the inertia of the box?
Is it correct if I calculate power requirement as shown below?
F=ma
Distance d=0.5*a*t^2
Time t=v/a
Power P=F*d/t

Since I am ignoring air drag, power is consumed only during acceleration correct?
 

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arjunzv8 said:
I am ignoring air drag, actuator efficiency etc...Is the actuator consuming power even if there is no motion (relative between actuator and box) because of the inertia of the box?
If you ignore actuator efficiency, then no power is required. You could replace the actuator with a rigid attachment which also consumes no power.
 
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I am still confused by this. Unlike a rigid attachment, an actuator would still consume power to remain in position as long as there is a load (here that is F=ma during the acceleration). So how would I then calculate this power requirement.
 
arjunzv8 said:
So how would I then calculate this power requirement.
From the technical specifications of the actuator. Ideally you would use one, that can be locked in a static position without power consumption.
 
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