What is the force acting on a rotating body in a non-inertial frame?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the forces acting on a rotating body within a non-inertial frame of reference. Participants explore the components of the force equation provided in a textbook, including gravity, Coriolis force, and centrifugal force, while seeking clarification on a specific term related to angular acceleration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a force equation for a rotating body in a non-inertial frame, listing various forces including gravity, Coriolis force, and centrifugal force.
  • Another participant suggests that the term involving angular acceleration (##\dot{\omega}##) may relate to torque.
  • A further reply indicates that the relationship between torque and angular acceleration (##\vec \tau = I\vec \alpha##) could be relevant to understanding the forces at play.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the second to last term in the force equation, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding its derivation and implications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on definitions of terms such as torque and angular acceleration, and the lack of derivation for the term in question may limit understanding.

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Hello! The angular velocity in the non-inertial frame of a rotating body of mass m is ##\Omega## and I need to find the force acting on the body (in the non-inertial frame associated with the body). In the book they say (without any derivation, they just state it) that the force is: $$\bar{F}=m\bar{g}+2m\bar{v}\times\bar{\Omega}+m(\bar{r}\times\bar{\dot{\Omega}})+\frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{r}} \frac{m( \bar{\Omega}\times \bar{r} )^2}{2}$$ So we have gravity, Coriolis force and centrifugal force. But what is the second to last term and how do you derive it? Thank you!
 
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The ##\dot\omega## shlould give you a clue
 
BvU said:
The ##\dot\omega## shlould give you a clue
Well it looks like something associated with a torque
 
Ever hear of ##\vec \tau = I\vec \alpha## ?
 

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