Adding Sinusoids of differing Magnitute & Phases

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The discussion revolves around the problem of finding the amplitude (A) and phase angle (θ) in the equation A*cos(ωt + θ) = 4*sin(ωt) + 3*cos(ωt). The context involves the addition of sinusoids with differing magnitudes and phases.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to justify the method of using the magnitudes of coefficients and the inverse tangent to find A and θ. Some participants question whether this approach is valid and seek further clarification on the reasoning behind it.
  • There are inquiries about how the values of A and θ would change if the equation were expressed in terms of sine instead of cosine, indicating a consideration of the implications of different representations of the trigonometric functions.
  • One participant reflects on the geometric interpretation of the problem, relating the components to the x and y axes.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different formulations of the problem and questioning the assumptions behind the methods proposed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for addition and subtraction formulas for sine and cosine, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of using different trigonometric forms and the associated geometric interpretations. There is an acknowledgment of the need for additional mathematical tools, such as addition formulas or Euler's identity, to further explore the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find A and [tex]\theta[/tex] given that:
[tex]Acos(\omega t + \theta) = 4sin(\omega t) + 3 cos(\omega t)[/tex]
Could someone elaborate on how to solve this. I mean it looks to me that one simply takes the magnitude of the coefficient and the inverse tangent of the same coefficients. But I feel there needs to be justification as to why we're allowed to do this.

Homework Equations


not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution


But the solution (according to my notes) is: [tex]A = \sqrt{4^2 + 3^2} = 5[/tex] and [tex]\theta^{-1}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{4}{3} = 53.1[/tex]

Thanks,

JL
 
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What if instead of

[tex] Acos(\omega t + \theta) = 4sin(\omega t) + 3 cos(\omega t)[/tex],

I wanted to write it as,

[tex] Asin(\omega t + \theta) = 4sin(\omega t) + 3 cos(\omega t)[/tex],

would the values of A and [tex]\theta[/tex] change at all?
 
jeff1evesque said:
What if instead of

[tex] Acos(\omega t + \theta) = 4sin(\omega t) + 3 cos(\omega t)[/tex],

I wanted to write it as,

[tex] Asin(\omega t + \theta) = 4sin(\omega t) + 3 cos(\omega t)[/tex],

would the values of A and [tex]\theta[/tex] change at all?
Oh, actually I think I know. The x coordinate axis is [tex]Acos(\omega t)[/tex] (negative for the negative x-axis), and the y coordinate axis is [tex]Asin(\omega t)[/tex] (negative for the negative y-axis). So this means the left side value in the equality is the actual vector, and the terms on the right are the x and y components.

Thannks,JL
 
You need addition and subtraction formulas for sine and cosine (or you can use Euler's identity, but that is more advanced).
 

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