Additional Velocity Required for a Satellite Already in Orbit to Escape

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the additional velocity required for a satellite already in orbit to escape Earth's gravity. The satellite is at a specific orbital radius, and the discussion centers around the application of conservation of energy principles and the dynamics of circular motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of mechanical energy to analyze the problem, questioning the initial kinetic energy of the satellite in orbit. There are suggestions to explore specific mechanical energy and orbital velocity equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an exploration of the forces acting on the satellite and the relationship between gravitational force and orbital velocity. Multiple interpretations of the initial conditions are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the forces acting on the satellite and the implications of its current orbital state. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity regarding the kinetic energy of the satellite and the assumptions made about its motion.

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Homework Statement


A satellite is orbiting the Earth around an orbit of radius R=2.5R0, where R0 is Earth's radius. What additional velocity is needs to be directed along the radius of the orbit so that satellite escapes Earth's gravity?

Homework Equations


Total Energy= K + U
Conservation of Energy: K1 + U1 = K2 + U2
K=0.5mv2
U=-Gm1m2 / R1, 2

The Attempt at a Solution



Hi guys! We worked some similar problems in school and I've been trying to follow that solving this problem. We've always used conservation of mechanical energy to do this.

Our condition for when the satellite has just barely escaped Earth's gravitational field is:

T2 = K2 + U2 = 0

U2 is effectively zero because R1, 2 (the distance between objects 1 and 2) is so great. K2 is zero because if the object has just barely escaped gravity, it wouldn't have any velocity. That all makes good sense to me!

The initial energy is a little more confusing to me. There is definitely some gravitational potential energy:

U=-Gm1m2 / R1, 2

I'll let mass, m, be the mass of the satellite and Mearth be the mass of the Earth. R1, 2 in this case would be 2.5R0.

U1=-GmMearth/2.5R0

We've solved problems launching stuff on Earth into space, where the object initially has no kinetic energy. K1 - U1 would equal zero, so K1 = U1:

0.5mv2 = GmMearth/2.5R0

The mass of the satellite would cancel from each side, and I can plug in the known constants and get an answer (2.2 x 105 m/s is what I got).

But... I'm not sure if there's really no initial kinetic energy. The satellite is in space and is orbiting at some velocity, so wouldn't it have kinetic energy? If so, how would I go about finding it? Also, this seems "too simple." Is there something I'm overlooking?
 
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SeventeenForever said:
The satellite is in space and is orbiting at some velocity, so wouldn't it have kinetic energy?
Indeed it will. You need to find this velocity by using mechanics. Hint: What is the force on the satellite and what force is required to keep it in a circular orbit?
 
SeventeenForever said:
But... I'm not sure if there's really no initial kinetic energy. The satellite is in space and is orbiting at some velocity, so wouldn't it have kinetic energy? If so, how would I go about finding it? Also, this seems "too simple." Is there something I'm overlooking?

Look up: "specific mechanical energy" (or, "specific orbital energy"). When the mass of the object in orbit is negligible with respect to that of the primary, it is often simpler to work with "specific" energies which is energy per unit mass (such as J/kg).

You should be able to find or derive an equation for the orbital velocity of a satellite in a circular orbit of a given radius (see the hint by Orodruin above). With that velocity and the given distance you should be in a position to calculate the specific mechanical energy of the orbit.

Remember to keep in mind that velocity is a vector quantity and that velocities combine accordingly.:wink:
 
I believe there's only one force on the satellite: gravity.

The gravity would provide a radial acceleration (towards Earth) that keeps the orbit circular since the velocity is tangential. The radial acceleration and velocity are related by:

arad=v2/R

The gravitational force is:

F1, 2= Gm1Mearth / R1, 22

The acceleration is F1, 2 divided by the mass of the satellite, m1, making the acceleration:

GMearth / R1, 22 = v2 / R1, 2

GMearth / R1, 2 = v2

I then take the square root of both sides to find the velocity. Is this the correct approach?
 
SeventeenForever said:
I then take the square root of both sides to find the velocity. Is this the correct approach?
Yup.
 

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