Additive Identity in Linear Algebra: V + 0 = V

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the additive identity in linear algebra, specifically examining the equation v + 0 = v, where 0 represents the zero vector. Participants explore the implications of this identity in the context of vector spaces and matrix operations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the additive identity and its uniqueness in the context of a 2x2 matrix, questioning whether v + 0 = v holds true.
  • Another participant challenges the first by asking how adding two vectors results in a 2x2 matrix, suggesting a possible misunderstanding of vector and matrix operations.
  • A third participant asserts that they are trying to prove the additive identity holds and emphasizes the need to test the axioms of vector spaces to determine validity.
  • A later reply states that if 0 is interpreted as a 2x2 zero-matrix, then v + 0 = v holds, but raises a concern that 0 + v = 0 cannot hold for a vector space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the validity of the additive identity in the context presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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There are limitations related to the definitions of vectors and matrices, as well as the assumptions about operations within vector spaces that remain unaddressed.

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Hi,

I am new with linear algebra, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around the 0 vector and the additive identity v + 0 = v, where 0 is the 0 vector.
If I had a 2x2 matrix, and v + w = C + (C^T)*D ... (where (C^T) is the transpose, v & w are vectors, and C & D are matrices)... would the additive identity hold? I feel like it wouldn't, because I don't see how it would be unique... but I think I may be wrong.. can someone please help?
 
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I can't make sense of your expression, how does adding two vectors get you a 2x2 matrix? Are you confusing something here, or am I the confused one?

Anyway, if the additive identity does not hold, you're not dealing with a vector space and all bets are off (as far as linear algebra is concerned). One of the requirements of a vector space [tex]V[/tex] is that there exists an element [tex]\mathbf{0} \in V[/tex] such that [tex]\mathbf{v} + \mathbf{0} = \mathbf{v}[/tex] for all [tex]\mathbf{v} \in V[/tex].
 
That's what I'm trying to prove though, that the additive identity v + 0 = v does in fact hold, and if not it's not a vector space, but we have to test the axioms anyway to see which ones do hold.
Addition of 2 vectors in this problem translates to:
vector v := C (where C is a 2x2 matrix)
vector w:= D (where D is a 2x2 matix)
(v+w):= C + (C^T)D
so i would set up my equation as v + 0 =? v
C + (C^T)D =? C
 
If 0 is a 2x2 zero-matrix (the 0-vector you were referring to), then v + 0 = v, but 0 + v = 0, which can't hold for a vector space.
 

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