Advanced Aliens Are In Happiness Boxes: Why SETI Must Fail

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of a hypothesis regarding the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) and the concept of advanced aliens existing in "Happiness Boxes." Participants explore the potential consequences of this idea on the Fermi paradox and the nature of intelligent life in the universe.

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  • One participant suggests that all sentient beings will eventually choose to enter Happiness Boxes, leading to the extinction of those who do not, thus ensuring that only those in Happiness Boxes remain over a long time scale.
  • Another participant expresses strong disagreement with the initial claim, labeling it as nonsense without providing specific counterarguments.
  • Several participants question the validity of the hypothesis, comparing it to the idea that intelligent aliens might be distracted by trivial pursuits like playing video games.
  • A participant critiques the source of the original hypothesis, stating that it is not acceptable for serious scientific discourse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the original hypothesis regarding advanced aliens and their choices, with some dismissing it outright while others engage with the implications of the idea.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on assumptions about the behavior of sentient beings and the nature of intelligence, which remain unexamined in detail. The discussion also reflects varying standards for acceptable sources in scientific discourse.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the Fermi paradox, theories of extraterrestrial intelligence, and the philosophical implications of advanced civilizations may find this discussion relevant.

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There is an aspect to this SETI problem that has not yet been considered.

I'd post the entire article here if I could, but the copyright is not mine for one year. (Yeah, I wrote this.)

https://omni.media/all-advanced-aliens-are-in-happiness-boxes

Any SETI scientist who reads this is going to feel a cold-steel knife in his guts. And the smarter and smarter he or she is, the harder and harder that knife is going to twist.

Several people have observed not all sentients will choose to go into Happiness Boxes. True, but the ones who don't go will die off eventually, since they chose to remain exposed to the Universe and all its dangers, and only the sentients in Happiness Boxes---sealed off from the Universe---will remain. Over a million-year time scale, the final, equilibrium state is not in doubt.
 
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Jeff Corkern said:
Any SETI scientist who reads this is going to feel a cold-steel knife in his guts. And the smarter and smarter he or she is, the harder and harder that knife is going to twist.
I'm not a SETI scientist but I completely and totally disagree w/ your conclusion, which I think is nonsense.
 
So your solution of the Fermi paradox is that intelligent aliens exist,
but they are all stoned and playing video games?
 
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rootone said:
So your solution of the Fermi paradox is that intelligent aliens exist,
but they are all stoned and playing video games?
Yep. Sounds like pretty stupid aliens to me.
 
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Omni is not an acceptable source for serious science.

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