Advanced Quantum Mechanics Textbooks: Derivations of Equations

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The discussion centers on finding a textbook that provides detailed derivations of the Schrödinger equation, particularly the transition from the time-dependent to the time-independent form. Participants recommend "QM Demystified" as a suitable resource for step-by-step explanations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful reading and solid mathematical foundations in computational chemistry, particularly when applying the Born-Oppenheimer approximation to separate nuclear and electronic wave functions.

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  • Understanding of the Schrödinger equation and its forms
  • Familiarity with the Born-Oppenheimer approximation
  • Basic knowledge of eigenfunctions and eigenvalue problems
  • Mathematical proficiency in quantum mechanics
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  • Study the derivation of the time-independent Schrödinger equation
  • Explore the concept of eigenfunctions in quantum mechanics
  • Research the Born-Oppenheimer approximation in computational chemistry
  • Read "QM Demystified" for a comprehensive understanding of quantum mechanics
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Hi I’m looking for a textbook that shows the derivations of equations such as the different forms of the Schrödinger equation fully and step by step.
 
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Frabjous said:
The Schrödinger equation is more motivated than derived. I always liked this discussion.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-to-derive-schrodingers-equation.1004975/#post-6514138
Thanks. Shocking that book is from 1961. 80 years old! It’s similar to what I am looking for. I’ll provide a bit of context. I’ve accepted the time dependent Schrödinger equation as a fact and starting point. My question, specifically, is how does the time independent equation arise from the time dependent equation. I know you first remove the time component somehow, is that what the linked resource is showing? After I have the time independent I separate it into nuclear and electronic wave function equations by applying the born Oppenheimer approximation. I’ll have a proper look in the morning when I’m at my computer. For even more context i’m a hobby trying to go serious computational chemist.
 
QuantumWhatNow said:
Shocking that book is from 1961. 80 years old!
Funny, I read 1967 and my math finds that 1967 is only 55 years ago :smile:

Both careful reading and solid math are very important for computational chemistry :wink:

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QuantumWhatNow said:
I know you first remove the time component somehow, is that what the linked resource is showing? After I have the time independent I separate it into nuclear and electronic wave function equations by applying the born Oppenheimer approximation.
The removal of the time component for solution of the Shrodinger eqn. has very little to do with its genesis. It represents a relatively straightforward (exact) eigenfunction expansion into stationary (persistant in time) states via separation of variables for (manifestly) time independent interactions. Then the fun begins because the number of exact solutions is few but the connection to reality is shockingly diverse.
 
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QuantumWhatNow said:
Hi I’m looking for a textbook that shows the derivations of equations such as the different forms of the Schrödinger equation fully and step by step.
For step by step presentation I recommend QM Demystified (no, I'm not the author)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0071765638/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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BvU said:
Funny, I read 1967 and my math finds that 1967 is only 55 years ago :smile:

Both careful reading and solid math are very important for computational chemistry :wink:

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Hahaha yes definitely!
 
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hutchphd said:
The removal of the time component for solution of the Shrodinger eqn. has very little to do with its genesis. It represents a relatively straightforward (exact) eigenfunction expansion into stationary (persistant in time) states via separation of variables for (manifestly) time independent interactions. Then the fun begins because the number of exact solutions is few but the connection to reality is shockingly diverse.
I need to look into eigenfunctions I guess. Not covered that just yet.
 
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