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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of computer modeling related to a mechanical fan's power requirements when influenced by external wind conditions. Participants explore how to connect with professionals who can assist in creating a computer model and the specifics needed for accurate modeling.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a consistent wind blowing at 48 mph will change the power requirement for the fan to maintain a velocity of 50 mph.
  • Another participant suggests that the power consumption needed is related to generating a 2 mph wind in calm conditions.
  • A participant emphasizes that the inquiry is about connecting with someone for computer modeling rather than seeking a definitive answer to the hypothetical scenario presented.
  • One reply indicates that the specifics of the modeling request will determine the best resources for assistance, suggesting contacting relevant engineering firms.
  • Another participant notes that the question posed may not require complex modeling and could be answered with basic fan specifications and manufacturer information.
  • A later reply encourages providing more specific details about the modeling needs to receive better guidance.
  • One participant recommends searching for 'fan laws' to find equations related to fan design and performance, indicating that the output could vary based on fan type and arrangement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and complexity of modeling the fan's performance under the given conditions. There is no consensus on the best approach to obtain assistance for the modeling task.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of specificity in the modeling request, suggesting that vague inquiries may not yield helpful responses. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding regarding the technical aspects of fan operation and modeling.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, computer modeling, or those seeking advice on connecting with engineering professionals may find this discussion relevant.

JP Mikl
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Hello,

I am using an arbitrary idea here to illustrate a question about computer modeling. I have a mechanical fan that uses xx power to produce a wind velocity of 50 mph in a calm environment. I want to know if a consistent wind blowing at 48 mph in the same direction as the fan is blowing will change the power requirement that the fan needs in order to still operate at 50 mph velocity, and determine exactly what that change would be.

I am not a mechanical engineer. If I want to input specs/data to complete a computer model are there suggestions? Should I Google "Mechanical Engineer" and find a local firm? Should I post in "gigs" in Craigslist? Should I put up a "hire notice" at UCLA Mechanical Engineering Department? Is there anyone on this forum that lives in the Los Angeles area and could perform this for a fee?

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Power consumption will be what the fan requires to generate 2 mph wind in calm conditions.
 
I am not asking for an answer to the hypothetical. It was only an illustration. "I am using an arbitrary idea here to illustrate a question about computer modeling." I am asking for advice on how to connect to someone that can do computer modeling.
 
The specifics of what ever it is you want modeled will determine where finding your best chance for help is. Calling the most relevant engineering company you can find will probably lead to a result - if they can't help they can probably point you to someone who can.

Your example of the moving fan requires no modelling, just the fan spec sheet, some googling, and/or a phone call to the manufacturer. That level of question probably won't illicit a helpful response from a busy engineer.
 
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billy_joule said:
That level of question probably won't illicit a helpful response from a busy engineer.
Beyond the response it just did, of course. :wink:
 
I wasn't busy :biggrin:
 
@ JP Mikl

If you could tell us more specifically what you want to model then we could give you some better answers to your question .

You might even get a complete answer to the actual problem .
 
Try googling 'fan laws' - this should produce the equations used for fan design, power usage, static pressure drop, etc. In your specific case, if the flow into the fan is 48 mph, it could have an output of 98 mph, but this depends on the type of fan and arrangement. The types of fans include propeller, axial centrifugal, forward inclined centrifugal, backward inclined centrifugal, tube axial, other more exotic. As others stated, your description is not specific enough to provide an answer.
 
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