Advice on Testing Out of Alg II for Pre-Calc in High School

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The discussion revolves around the decision of a high school freshman, Josh, regarding whether to test out of Algebra II to advance to Pre-Calculus. Participants share their experiences and advice on the implications of skipping Algebra II, the importance of mastering its content, and considerations for taking Advanced Placement (AP) courses in chemistry and physics in subsequent years.

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Main Points Raised

  • Josh expresses a desire to test out of Algebra II to enroll in Pre-Calculus, believing it would benefit his future studies in chemistry and physics.
  • Some participants suggest that a solid understanding of Algebra II is crucial for success in Pre-Calculus and calculus, warning that skipping it without adequate preparation could be detrimental.
  • One participant recommends using resources like Khan Academy or textbooks to self-teach Algebra II, emphasizing the need to master all relevant topics.
  • Another participant shares their experience of skipping a math class and advises that if one is confident in their knowledge, testing out can be beneficial.
  • There are differing opinions on the difficulty of AP Chemistry and AP Physics, with some suggesting that AP Physics should ideally be taken alongside AP Calculus.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of balancing summer wrestling camps with online coursework for Algebra II.
  • Participants discuss the timeline for preparing for the Pre-Calculus test and the amount of study time required.
  • Some participants share their own experiences with self-teaching advanced math topics and the resources they found helpful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mastering Algebra II before advancing to Pre-Calculus, but there are differing views on the feasibility and advisability of skipping the course. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for Josh's situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various resources and strategies for self-study, but there is no consensus on the best method for preparing for the Algebra II test or the implications of skipping the course.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students considering advanced math placement, educators advising students on course selection, and parents seeking guidance on academic pathways in STEM fields.

  • #31
RoshanBBQ said:
Does Harvard tell you why the accepted you, or is she just assuming?

I don't think so - my understanding is that "decision" letters are generic (perhaps in the case of acceptance, financial aid offers might be included or maybe that would be in a separate e-mail). However, I'd say that the guess is as good as can be.

Admissions to selective colleges are very random, as has been often pointed out (inc. some members here who went to such colleges). I can think of a few things that are certain though:

1) They remain academic institutions and as such, academic prowess is of utmost importance.

2) They're looking to *build a community* and one has to be the kind of person that looks like they'll fit into that community.

One's application consisting of a high school transcript, standardised test scores, recommendation letters, a few essays, list of extra-curricular activities and perhaps an interview, if there is one. Applicants to Harvard and other selective schools do not tend to have any issues with "1)". Guess what, in the application, satisfies criteria "2)"? Sure, a huge list of activities can look impressive but, in my opinion, it does not carry as much weight if the applicant cannot show why their activities are important to them and the only way to do that, it would seem, is through (one of?) the essays and/or the interview.

This might be an interesting read. While the OP does not work for Harvard, he does work for a selective liberal arts college. Apparently, an experienced counsellor will spend about three minutes on a whole application. I'd be surprised if academics alone could get one in. I bet that of those three minutes, only a minute (maybe less) is spent looking at grades, scores and list of extra curricular activities. Actually, somebody who works in the admissions office at MIT (Chris, I think), said that they only give a brief look at academics, and if they conclude that the applicant looks like he's able enough, they won't bother going back there again. Jbmiller, if you're interested in that school, it might be interesting to search physicsforums.com (using google) for posts on the subject. Twofish-quant and Vanadium 50 went there; they made a number of posts on applying and life there, in general.
What he (OP on that thread I linked) says will reflect their own practices but I wouldn't be surprised if similar ones were to be used elsewhere, at say, Harvard, who received about thirty thousand applications last year. (34285, actually)
 
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  • #32
Well I really enjoy math and science, so those seem like clubs I will definitaley be apart of/create.

We would probably do problems, really challening problems. Also, with that, we would do a lot of coursework/homework.
 
  • #33
jbmiller said:
Well I really enjoy math and science, so those seem like clubs I will definitaley be apart of/create.

We would probably do problems, really challening problems. Also, with that, we would do a lot of coursework/homework.

The problem sets on Art of Problem Solving seem like they'd be a little harder than what would be usually set in high school. I went to a high school that was considered to be "hard" and I never had such problem sets to complete. Have fun!
 
  • #34
Thakns, hopefully everything works out!
 

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