Affine Varieties and the Vanishing Ideal

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The discussion centers on the concepts of affine varieties and vanishing ideals within the context of algebraic geometry, particularly as they relate to polynomial rings. Participants explore the definitions, relationships, and implications of these concepts, seeking clarity on their distinctions and connections.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the definitions and differences between affine varieties and vanishing ideals, indicating a lack of foundational understanding in their course.
  • Another participant explains that the vanishing ideal corresponds to the set of polynomials that are zero on every point of a given subset of affine space, suggesting a relationship between the two concepts.
  • A participant notes that there is a one-to-one correspondence between irreducible affine varieties in Rn and prime ideals in the polynomial ring, emphasizing the duality between varieties and ideals.
  • One participant expresses a newfound understanding that the vanishing ideal is the ideal of a variety and suggests that ideals facilitate computations with affine varieties.
  • A further clarification is made that varieties consist of points where certain polynomials, specifically those in the vanishing ideal, equal zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the relationship between affine varieties and vanishing ideals, particularly regarding their definitions and the correspondence between them. However, the discussion does not resolve all uncertainties, particularly for the initial inquirer.

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The discussion does not fully address the assumptions underlying the definitions of affine varieties and vanishing ideals, nor does it explore the implications of irreducibility conditions mentioned by participants. There may be varying interpretations of these concepts based on different textbooks.

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Can someone please explain to me these two concepts and how they differ from each other? I'm taking a class entitled Math & Computers which emphasizes algebraic geometry in a symbolic-computational setting. That being said, the class is not very oriented towards explaining and understanding these ideas as it is assumed that I've already had experience in dealing with them.

Most specifically, I'm talking about affine varieties and vanishing ideals in the realm of polynomial rings. Is the vanishing ideal a subset of the affine variety?
 
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If you have a subset Z of your affine space (for example Rn), the corresponding vanishing ideal, is the set of polyomials in n variables being zero on every point of Z. If you have a set T of polynomials, you can talk about the common zeros of all polynomials in T, which will be a subset of Rn, and call this an affine variety, usually with some irreducibility-condition, depending on your text-book.

So loosely speaking, your objects, varieties and ideals, live in two different worlds, Rn and the polynomial ring, respectively. But a variety gives an ideal, and an ideal gives a variety. To be more precise, you can prove a theorem showing a one-to-one correspondence between the (irreducible) affine varieties in Rn, and prime ideals in the polynomial ring, and by using this theorem you can translate statements about ideals to statements about varieties, and vice versa.
 
I had a moment of insight last night around 1am. I understand now how ideals and affine varieties are linked. The vanishing ideal is the ideal of a variety. Ideals also give us a way to compute with affine varieties, correct?
 
varieties consist of points where certain polynomials, the ones in the vanishing ideal, vanish.

"vanish" means equal zero.
 

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