Age of the earth - uranium radioactive decay

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The discussion revolves around estimating the age of the Earth using the radioactive decay of uranium isotopes, specifically U-235 and U-238. Participants are examining the implications of the isotopic ratio and the mean lives of these isotopes in the context of the problem presented.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are discussing the setup of decay equations for U-238 and questioning whether the decay of both U-235 and U-238 should be considered in the calculations. There are attempts to derive the age of the Earth based on the isotopic ratio and the mean lives of the isotopes.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have proposed calculations that yield different age estimates, while others are questioning the necessity of including both isotopes in the decay equations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants note potential discrepancies in the problem statement and express uncertainty regarding the teacher's accuracy in the provided values. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions about the initial conditions of the isotopes and their decay processes.

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Natural Uranium found in the Earth's crust contains the isotopes A=235 and A=238 in the atom ratio of 7.3*10^-3 to 1. Assuming that the time of formation of the Earth these two isotopes were formed equally, and that the mean lives are 1.03*10^9 years and 6.49*10^9 years respectively, show that the age of Earth is 5.15*10^9 years.

ok firt i set up the equation for the Uranium 238 decay:
N = N(o) e^(-lambda*t)

N/N(0) = 7.3*10^-3 / 1 = e^-(t/1.03*10^9)

solving for t (using the natural log function)

i got: t = 5.06*10^9 years.
which is pretty close to the value in the problem.

I want to know if the way i solved is right or if i have to consider the decay of Uranium 235 also thus we will have to lambda's in the exponential function. If we use both we get another value which is close to 6.02*10^9 years.
I would like to take the opinion of few people here.
And Thanks for the help :)

Joe
 
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How can you address the ratio of U-235 to U-238 without considering the the decay of both of them?
 
so we have to consider the two meanlifes.
and we get the 6.02*10^9 years?
(which contradicts the age in the problem, well our teacher does a lot of mistakes.. so probably it's one of them? but i do know that the age of the Earth is estimated to be 5 billions years).

Do i make any sense?
Thanks again
 
The decay constant \lambda = 0.693/t1/2.

One must use the ratio of the atoms in this problem.

N235(T)/N238(T) = 0.0073 =

(N235(0) e^{-\lambda_{235}T})/(N238(0) e^{-\lambda_{238}T}), but

N235(0) = N238(0), so

0.0073 = e^{-\lambda_{235}T}/e^{-\lambda_{238}T}
 

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