Air Inside Bus: Common Phenomenon Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of air movement inside a moving bus, particularly focusing on how air enters and exits the bus under various conditions. Participants explore the implications of bus acceleration, the role of air pressure, and the effects of inertia on air movement, with a mix of theoretical and experiential observations.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how air enters the bus if the rear window is closed and the bus is accelerating.
  • Another participant suggests that the bus is not airtight and that air can escape through gaps around doors, potentially balancing the air pressure.
  • A participant proposes that air entering through one part of a window can lead to air being sucked out from another part, illustrating the complexity of air movement.
  • One viewpoint argues that air movement can occur even in a completely airtight bus due to inertia, creating a pressure gradient that affects air distribution.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of significant air movement due to inertia, suggesting that the effect may be minimal unless specific conditions are met.
  • Experiential accounts are shared, with participants noting personal observations of air being sucked out of windows and the opposite phenomenon occurring simultaneously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of air movement within the bus, with no consensus reached on the primary causes or effects. Some agree on the role of inertia, while others contest its significance.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include assumptions about air pressure, the airtightness of the bus, and the conditions under which air movement is observed, which remain unresolved.

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My doubt is reguarding the common phenomenon observed in the moving bus...While moving in a accelerating bus we all observe the wind gushing inside the bus may it be from the window of the driver or the passenger or even from the doors. My question is if all this air is entering inside the bus from where they are going out if the rear window is closed
and even roofs are packed
 
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hi there blizz

as you have observed, the bus isn't exactly airtight. There may be a temporary increase in air pressure but I would doubt that it last long
There's likely to be as many gaps around doors etc letting air out as there are letting air in

cheers
Dave
 
Hi davenn

If its the door u r talking about then won't u think if a person standing there would experience air entering the bus.
 
Blizz91 said:
if all this air is entering inside the bus from where they are going out if the rear window is closed
Sometimes air is coming in and out thought different parts of the same opening: You feel air coming in from at back of the window, but at its front part a piece of paper gets sucked out of the car.
 
Actually the apparent air movement would even happen in a completely air-tight bus. As the bus begins to move, the air molecules tend to lag due to their inertia. As a result, there is a net movement of air from the front to the back of the bus. This builds up a pressure gradient, that will eventually push the air inside the bus to catch up, and the pressure evens out. The air is sloshing back.

Here is a good demonstration :D.
 
borisgred said:
Actually the apparent air movement would even happen in a completely air-tight bus. As the bus begins to move, the air molecules tend to lag due to their inertia. As a result, there is a net movement of air from the front to the back of the bus. This builds up a pressure gradient, that will eventually push the air inside the bus to catch up, and the pressure evens out. The air is sloshing back.

Here is a good demonstration :D.
I'm sorry, but that isn't the phenomena being described here. If the air temp is constant and absent a void such as created by the balloon, the "sloshing" is miniscule.
 
A.T. said:
Sometimes air is coming in and out thought different parts of the same opening: You feel air coming in from at back of the window, but at its front part a piece of paper gets sucked out of the car.


Ok then, now consider a bus with a large window where a single window is shared by 2 consecutive seats( in a row) then if what u r saying is true then don't u think the passengers sitting they would experience opposite phenomenon but I personally have experienced the opposite
 
borisgred said:
Actually the apparent air movement would even happen in a completely air-tight bus. As the bus begins to move, the air molecules tend to lag due to their inertia. As a result, there is a net movement of air from the front to the back of the bus. This builds up a pressure gradient, that will eventually push the air inside the bus to catch up, and the pressure evens out. The air is sloshing back.

Here is a good demonstration :D.


hey Boris, I think u didnt get what i asked though there might be inertia of the air particle present there but as russ said I think that effect will be too minuscule and also this is due to bus accelerating, but the phenomenon which I described can be experienced even when bus is moving with constant velocity
 
Blizz91 said:
I personally have experienced the opposite
And I personally have experienced stuff being sucked out of the car window many times. Sometimes sucked out from the front window, and return back into the car though the back window. With a single opened window the same is possible, just within a smaller opening.
 

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