Air resistance problem, expected time.

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The discussion centers on calculating the expected time to impact for a drop of water falling 412 meters, considering linear drag. The key equations involved include the integral from 0 to t of (1-e-s/p)ds and the velocity equation v = -V(1-e-t/p), where V represents terminal velocity. The time constant p is defined as p = V/g, with specific values provided: V = 33.07 m/s and g = 9.8 m/s². The user expresses confusion regarding the rearrangement of the integral and its implications for determining time.

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Homework Statement


As a bonus question on an assignment for my advanced physics class, we were asked to calculate (approx.) the expected time to impact of a drop of water falling 412m, from a tall building to the ground, considering linear drag. I've done most of the calculations but I expect that I'm missing something in the integrals. It's even more infuriating as they've given a "hint", and I still can't figure it out:

integral, from 0 to t of (1-e-s/p)ds = t-p(e-t/p)

which I worked out myself, so I can't quite figure out why they've given me this. Is it just that I can't rearrange this properly to give a value for t, or is there more to it?

where p is the time constant, p= V/g = 3.374 = m/c where c = 1.55x10-7
V= terminal velocity = 33.07ms-1
g= gravitational acceleration= 9.8ms-2
m= 5.23x10-7
s= 412m= distance traveled (vertical)

Homework Equations



with the above, I also have the equations of motion obviously as well as:
v = -V(1-e-t/p), where v is the velocity at any given point (intially 0)

The Attempt at a Solution



So far all I've worked out is the terminal velocity and time constant (given above)
I think I need to use the height s (412m) and some relation between the time constant, terminal velocity and time but can't work through the maths.

Thanks heaps
 
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Hi emmaeng! Welcome to PF! :smile:

I'm not sure why it's not working out for you, but it may be because this equation is wrong …
emmaeng said:
integral, from 0 to t of (1-e-s/p)ds = t-p(e-t/p)

if you put t = 0, you don't get 0, do you? :wink:
 

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