Airy Disk Patterns: Quality Criteria

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The discussion revolves around the criteria for judging the quality of an Airy disk pattern in optical systems, particularly in the context of telescopes and laboratory settings. Participants explore various aspects of the Airy disk, including its diffraction-limited nature, the effects of obscuration, and the evaluation of point spread functions (PSF).

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the "best" Airy disk is one that is diffraction-limited and cannot be improved further with lens design and construction.
  • Others argue that the quality of the Airy pattern is highest when it contains the bulk of the light, has dark minima, is symmetrical, and shows intensity fall-off with distance from the disk.
  • A participant questions the existence of a quantitative way to describe the quality of an Airy disk, particularly in a laboratory setting.
  • There is a suggestion that deviations from the ideal Airy disk pattern can be used as a quantitative measure of instrument quality.
  • One participant expresses interest in understanding how obscuration affects the Airy disk pattern, specifically mentioning a circular obscuration in the exit pupil.
  • Another participant notes that the effects of obscuration can vary depending on its location in the optical path, with specific reference to support structures.
  • Discussion includes the relationship between the point-spread function and the Fourier transform of the field in the exit pupil, with a focus on how obscuration alters this relationship.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the quantification of Airy disk quality and the implications of obscuration, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence the quality of the Airy disk, including alignment of optical devices and the specific characteristics of obscurations, but these aspects remain unresolved.

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What criteria is used to judge the quality of an airy disk pattern?
 
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Somefantastik said:
What criteria is used to judge the quality of an airy disk pattern?
In what sense? In the case of telescope systems, the "best" Airy disk is one that cannot be improved further with lens design and construction, and the system is said to be diffraction-limited. Fainter stars will seem to be tiny points, compared to bright stars, but that's just because the intensity of the whole of the disk is low. Theoretically, the size of the Airy disk produced by a telescope is the same for stars of all intensities.

If you're talking about the pattern of rings around the disk, I believe that the standard (if there is such a beast) is that the quality of the Airy pattern is the highest when the disk contains the bulk of the light, the minima appear as dark rings, and the diffraction pattern is symmetrical, and the intensity of the rings falls off with distance from the disk. Are there numbers to quantify "quality" in this sense? I have no idea, but there are probably ATM forums where you could get more information than you need.
 
I don't think that there's a quantitative way to describe the quality of an airy disk. I was asking for when I'm in the lab and trying to optimize a system to give me the "best" airy disk. Thanks for the advice, it is helpful.
 
Somefantastik said:
What criteria is used to judge the quality of an airy disk pattern?

Presumably you mean how is the point spread function of an optical instrument evaluated? The Airy disk represents the aberration-free diffraction limit for optical imaging, and so deviations from the real PSF from an Airy disk pattern is the quantitative measure of instrument quality. For more exotic optical measurements (near field methods, for example), different criteria are used.
 
Somefantastik said:
I don't think that there's a quantitative way to describe the quality of an airy disk. I was asking for when I'm in the lab and trying to optimize a system to give me the "best" airy disk. Thanks for the advice, it is helpful.

That's a slightly different question- are you asking how to align optical devices?
 
Well, aligning the system is part of the task that I'm assigned to do, but not necessarily what I am asking about. My goal is to understand how an obscuration affects the airy disk pattern.
 
That's also a different question: where is the obscuration? If the obscuration is in the exit pupil (like a support spider), the effect is straightforward to understand. If the obscuration is located arbitrarily in the optical path, the effect can be much more complex.
 
It's going to be a circular obscuration in the exit pupil (pretty mundane, I know...but it's the assignment).

I expect to see the radius of the Airy disk decrease and its principle maximum decrease value and the secondary maxima increase in value...as for the support struts, I'm not sure what I'll see but it'll be a learning experience.
 
The point-spread function is the Fourier transform of the field in the exit pupil- for an unobscured circular pupil, the PSF is an Airy function. Adding an obscuration is straightforward- a sum (or difference) of 'circle functions', and taking the Fourier transform of two functions added together is equally straightforward.
 

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