Alexander Vilenkin and energy of a closed universe

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The discussion centers on the energy of a closed universe as defined by its Hamiltonian, which is zero when the spacetime adheres to constraint equations. Participants reference Wald's work and the implications of pseudotensors in general relativity, particularly in relation to Vilenkin's concepts of positive and negative energy. The conversation highlights the challenges of reconciling these concepts with the physical interpretation of energy in a closed universe, emphasizing the importance of peer-reviewed literature over informal sources like Wikipedia. The limitations of Tryon's model, particularly regarding conserved quantities and gravitational potential energy in non-stationary spacetimes, are also critically examined.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Hamiltonian mechanics in the context of general relativity.
  • Familiarity with pseudotensors and their role in energy definitions within general relativity.
  • Knowledge of the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric and its implications for closed universe models.
  • Awareness of peer-reviewed literature in cosmology and theoretical physics.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study Wald's "General Relativity" for a comprehensive understanding of Hamiltonian formulations.
  • Research the role of pseudotensors in general relativity through peer-reviewed articles.
  • Examine the implications of the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker metric in cosmological models.
  • Investigate the criticisms and developments surrounding Tryon's quantum fluctuation model in contemporary literature.
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The discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, cosmologists, and graduate students focusing on general relativity, energy conservation in cosmological models, and the implications of pseudotensors in physics.

  • #31
PeterDonis said:
If you can convince all the people who have written papers claiming that pseudotensors, or at least some of them, do have physical meaning, sure. :confused: As I noted before, two of the people you would need to convince are Vilenkin and Guth.
I am not sure why so many people think there is anything wrong with energy not being conserved, it wouldn't be magic how it isn't.Does Inflation theory require the usage of pseudotensors to work or something of the sort?
 
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  • #32
Question69 said:
Does Inflation theory require the usage of pseudotensors to work
To my knowledge, no, the model can be formulated entirely in terms of tensors and pseudotensors are not necessary. From what I have read in the literature, the emphasis by some physicists on pseudotensors is more a matter of their beliefs or opinions about physical interpretation than about actually making predictions from the model.
 
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  • #33
PeterDonis said:
To my knowledge, no, the model can be formulated entirely in terms of tensors and pseudotensors are not necessary. From what I have read in the literature, the emphasis by some physicists on pseudotensors is more a matter of their beliefs or opinions about physical interpretation than about actually making predictions from the model.
I am not really against these sorts of things physicists do, I think the philosophy of physics is a really interesting field of study.
 

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