Algebra of the generator of supersymmetry transformations?

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The discussion revolves around the algebra of supersymmetry transformations, specifically focusing on the properties and calculations involving superfields and Grassmann variables. Participants explore the anticommutator relations of these variables and their derivatives, as well as the implications for supersymmetry algebra.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a superfield and a variation involving a supercharge, seeking help to demonstrate the algebra of the anticommutator.
  • Another participant mentions the rules for taking derivatives of Grassmann variables, asserting that the anticommutator of a Grassmann variable and its derivative equals 1.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumptions regarding the anticommutators of Grassmann variables, with a participant questioning the validity of certain relations and seeking clarification on the behavior of derivatives with respect to these variables.
  • It is noted that derivatives with respect to bosonic coordinates commute with Grassmann variables, while the anticommutator relations for Grassmann variables are discussed, including the unbarred and barred versions.
  • A reference to a specific equation in a supersymmetry text is provided to illustrate the properties of Grassmann variables and their derivatives.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between theta and bar theta, questioning the result of their anticommutator.
  • One participant mentions they found a solution but did not apply the anticommutator to a test function, indicating a potential misunderstanding or oversight in the application of the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on all aspects of the anticommutator relations, as participants express uncertainty and differing interpretations of the rules governing Grassmann variables and their derivatives.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of the properties of Grassmann variables and the implications of their derivatives, indicating that further clarification or reference to authoritative texts may be necessary.

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We consider a superfield \Phi\left(x^{\mu}, \theta_{\alpha}\right).
For a small variation \delta \Phi = \bar{\epsilon} Q \Phi
where the supercharge Q_{\alpha} is given by:
Q_{\alpha}=\frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\alpha}}-\left(\gamma^{\mu} \theta \right) _{\alpha} \partial _{\mu}
They satisfy the algebra:
\left\{ Q_{\alpha}, Q_{\beta} \right\} = -2\left( \gamma^{\mu} C \right)_{\alpha \beta} \partial_{\mu}
where C is the charge coniugation matrix.
How can I demonstrate this? The exercise is to calculate explicitely the anticommutator.
Can you help me please?
Thank you very much!
 
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Do you know the rules for taking the derivatives of Grassmann variables?

I think all you need is that the anticommutator of θ and its respective derivative is 1.
 
I'm not sure of knowing it exactly... can you control my assumptions please?
The anticommutator of two theta is zero: \left\{ \theta_{\alpha}, \theta_{\beta} \right\}=0
The anticommutator of the derivatives is also zero:
\left\{ \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\alpha}}, \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\beta} }\right\}=0
You say that the anticommutator
\left\{ \theta_{\alpha}, \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\beta} }\right\}
is equal to 1?
And what is the result of an anticommutator like
\left\{ \left( \gamma^{\mu} \theta \right)_{\alpha} \partial_{\mu} , \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\beta} }\right\} = ?
\partial_{\mu} commute or anticommute with a theta?
Thank you
 
alialice said:
I'm not sure of knowing it exactly... can you control my assumptions please?
The anticommutator of two theta is zero: \left\{ \theta_{\alpha}, \theta_{\beta} \right\}=0
The anticommutator of the derivatives is also zero:
\left\{ \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\alpha}}, \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\beta} }\right\}=0
You say that the anticommutator
\left\{ \theta_{\alpha}, \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\beta} }\right\}
is equal to 1?
No, because there you differentiate wrt theta-bar. Not wrt theta.


\partial_{\mu} commute or anticommute with a theta?
Thank you
They commutate; \partial_{\mu} is a derivative wrt a bosonic coordinate.
 
Thank you!
So \left\{ \bar{\theta}_{\alpha}, \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\beta}} \right\}=1? Why?
 
The same anticommutator relation also holds for the unbarred thetas.

As to why that relation holds, I don't know if I can give an intuitive reason. In general the property is just axiomized to get desired properties. Any good introduction SUSY text will probably give a good motivation.
 
See e.g. eq.(11.47) of the book "Supersymmetry demystified", which is a very nice first exposure to SUSY:

<br /> \{ \partial_a, \theta^b \}f = \partial_a (\theta^b f) + \theta^b \partial_a f = \partial_a \theta^b f - \theta^b \partial_a f + \theta^b \partial_a f = \delta_a^b f<br />
where the minus-sign comes from the fact that you work with Grassmannian variables.
 
Thank you for the help!
 
Which is the relation between theta and bar theta?
Or better, what is the result of
\left\{ \theta_{\beta}, \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar{\theta}^{\alpha} }\right\} ?
 
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Apply to a test function and use the grassman properties.
 
  • #11
Did you manage to find it out?
 
  • #12
Yes I managed, thanks, but I did't apply the anticommutator to a test function, I wrote theta as a bar theta(it appears a conjugation matrix in 4 dim or a gamma matrix in 2 dim)!
 

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