Alpha particle approaching a gold nucleus

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The problem involves an alpha particle approaching a gold nucleus, specifically calculating the electric force acting on the alpha particle at a given distance from the nucleus. The subject area includes electrostatics and the application of Coulomb's law.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of electric force using Coulomb's law and question the units of charge required for the calculation. There is a focus on ensuring the correct expression of charges in Coulombs and identifying potential errors in the original poster's calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is examining the original poster's calculations and assumptions, with some participants suggesting that there may be a misprint in the problem statement regarding the distance. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct units and factors to consider in the calculations.

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There is a mention of a possible misprint in the problem statement related to the distance, which could affect the interpretation of the problem.

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Homework Statement


An alpha particle approaches at high speeds a gold nucleus with a charge of 79e. What is the electric force acting on the alpha particle when it is 2.0e-17 m from the gold nucleus?

Homework Equations


FE=k(q1q2)/d2

The Attempt at a Solution


FE=k(q1q2)/d2
FE=9e9((2e)(79e))/(2.0e-17)2
FE=9.1e7 N

The answer in the back of the book says that it is 9.1 e -12 N.

Not sure where I went wrong.
 
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If you want the force to be in units of Newtons, what should be the units for electric charge?
 
TSny said:
If you want the force to be in units of Newtons, what should be the units for electric charge?
It should be in Coulombs.
 
Randell Julius said:
It should be in Coulombs.
Yes. It looks like you made a minor error in expressing the two charges in terms of Coulombs. Check to see if you missed a factor of 10-19.
 
TSny said:
Yes. It looks like you made a minor error in expressing the two charges in terms of Coulombs. Check to see if you missed a factor of 10-19.
The value we used for e was 1.602e-19 Coulombs
 
Randell Julius said:
The value we used for e was 1.602e-19 Coulombs
Yes. Note that e occurs twice, once for each charge. So, how many factors of 1.602 x 10-19 occur in the numerator of the force calculation?
 
TSny said:
Yes. Note that e occurs twice, once for each charge. So, how many factors of 1.602 x 10-19 occur in the numerator of the force calculation?
2 factors of 1.602 * 10-19.
 
OK. My mistake. Since your answer was off by exactly a factor of 10-19, I assumed (wrongly) that you had missed a factor of 10-19 in substituting for the charges. Now that I have grabbed my calculator and checked your work, I'm getting the same answer as you. The distance for d given in the problem looks way too small to be reasonable. (It is much less than the size of a nucleus!) So, I think there must have been a misprint in the problem statement for the distance d.
 
TSny said:
OK. My mistake. Since your answer was off by exactly a factor of 10-19, I assumed (wrongly) that you had missed a factor of 10-19 in substituting for the charges. Now that I have grabbed my calculator and checked your work, I'm getting the same answer as you. The distance for d given in the problem looks way too small to be reasonable. (It is much less than the size of a nucleus!) So, I think there must have been a misprint in the problem statement for the distance d.
Okay thank you very much.
 

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