Am I overthinking this? (Noise cancelling headphones for airplane noise)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of wave shifting in the context of noise-canceling headphones and whether a phase shift can effectively negate a wave. Participants debate the implications of shifting a wave by 2π, π, or π/2, emphasizing that a 2π shift results in no change to the original wave. They suggest visualizing the wave functions to understand the sum of the waves better. A valid approach to negate the wave involves recognizing that a phase shift can be equivalent to negating the expression. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying mathematical principles to achieve the desired outcome in wave cancellation.
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Homework Statement
Am I over thinking this question
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Can I just shift the wave over by 2Pi to get the opposite wave?
 

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Thickmax said:
Homework Statement:: Am I over thinking this question
Relevant Equations:: See below (shown in the question)

Can I just shift the wave over by 2Pi to get the opposite wave?
How will a shift of 2pi give you anything different from the original wave?
 
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haruspex said:
How will a shift of 2pi give you anything different from the original wave?
Shift it by 1pi then?
 
Thickmax said:
Shift it by 1pi then?
Pi/2?
 
I'd suggest drawing s(t), sheadphones and their sum.
 
Thickmax said:
Shift it by 1pi then?

Thickmax said:
Pi/2?
Don't just guess. Figure it out.
 
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the answer is negative the same equation...start points and end points will be the same?

Shifting the wave will move the start and end points by either (2pi, pi or pi/2)
 
I repeat my original hint: draw s(t) and shead(t) (3, 4 of them?) and add. One of them should be close to zero.
 
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Thickmax said:
the answer is negative the same equation
Right, so that is a valid answer to the question.
Thickmax said:
Shifting the wave will move the start and end points by either (2pi, pi or pi/2)
Not sure what you mean by that. The equation does not have endpoints. It expresses the amplitude for all times and all locations.
If you mean shifting the entire wave, yes, there is a phase shift that is exactly equivalent to negating the expression: ##\sin(\theta)=-\sin(\theta+\phi)## for some ##\phi##. You really should be able to say immediately what that value is! Consider the sines of 0°, 90°, 180°, 270°, 360°.

There is one other error in your attempt in post #1. It tells you which variables are allowed in the answer, but you have used one not in the list.
 
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