Amateur question about Bachelors

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The discussion revolves around the varying lengths of bachelor's degree programs across different countries, specifically comparing two-year and four-year degrees. Participants explore the implications of these differences on educational standards, course requirements, and the recognition of foreign degrees in the U.S.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that different countries have distinct standards for what constitutes a bachelor's degree, affecting its duration.
  • One participant explains that in the U.S., a bachelor's degree includes a significant portion of core requirements, such as liberal arts and sciences, while other countries may focus solely on major-specific courses.
  • Another participant mentions the educational structure in the UK, highlighting the difference in years of lower education and the duration of college degrees compared to the U.S.
  • A participant from Ontario describes the educational changes in Canada, noting the option for a general degree in three years versus an honors degree in four years, with variability based on course load.
  • Concerns are raised about the recognition of a two-year bachelor's degree from another country when applying to U.S. programs, questioning whether it would be accepted given the typical four-year requirement.
  • One participant asserts that the equivalency of the degree is more important than its length, stating that if a two-year degree is deemed equivalent to a U.S. bachelor's, it could allow entry into a master's program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the recognition of foreign degrees and the standards of educational systems in different countries. There is no consensus on the implications of degree length on educational equivalency.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on specific equivalency criteria used by U.S. institutions and the variability in educational structures across countries. The discussion does not resolve how different educational systems impact the recognition of degrees.

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How come in some countries require two years to earn a bachelor and some require five?

In many countries, it is four years.

Is there really a difference when compare with the four years to the two years Bachelors in terms of knowledge?
 
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flyingpig said:
How come in some countries require two years to earn a bachelor and some require five?
'cause different countries have their own standards about what goes into a bachelors degree. In the US, a bachelors is anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 core requirements, which usually consist of liberal arts courses and some science and math that everyone has to take. A lot of other countries don't bother with that and instead only require major specific courses for a degree. It's all variable that way.
 
i know in the UK, the lower edu is 13 years compared to 12 in the us. but college is 3 years vs. 4 in the uk, us respectively.

keep stuff like that in mind.
 
In Ontario (Canada) it was (when I went through) 13 years lower edu and 4 years under grad, though they changed that recently to 12 years lower edu. But you can get a general degree in three years, and honours degree in 4. That said some people take a larger or smaller course load so a nominal 4 year degree could in theory take 3 years or 5 years depending on how you pace yourself.
 
But if say you got a two-year-bachelor from another country that only requires two-years to get a bachelor, would you be able to apply to the U.S.? Since there bachelors take four years.
 
flyingpig said:
But if say you got a two-year-bachelor from another country that only requires two-years to get a bachelor, would you be able to apply to the U.S.?
Nobody cares about the length of the degree, it's all about the equivalency. If your two years bachelors is the same as ours, you can get into a masters program, if not you retake bachelors. My school doesn't allow 2nd degrees in the same thing as your first degree, so a lot of foreign students take a masters in their subject and are required to take lots of undergrad supplemental courses.
 

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