An artillery shell is fired I don't know

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The problem involves the trajectory of an artillery shell fired at an initial velocity of 300 m/s at an angle of 55 degrees. The shell explodes after 42 seconds, and the task is to determine its x and y coordinates at the point of explosion relative to the firing point.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the x and y components of the shell's motion, noting the initial velocities and time of flight. There is confusion regarding the vertical motion and the time to reach maximum height versus total flight time.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using kinematic equations to find the vertical distance traveled, while others have pointed out the miscalculation of time for the vertical component. The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the motion and the application of relevant equations.

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There is a noted confusion about the time taken to reach maximum height versus the total time of flight, which is critical for accurate calculations. Participants are also considering the effects of gravity on the shell's trajectory.

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Homework Statement


An artillery shell is fired with an initial velocity of 300 m/s at 55.0 degrees above the horizontal. It explodes on a mountainside 42.0 seconds after firing. What are the x and y coordinates of the shell where it explodes, relative to it's firing point?

We know that it is fired at 300 m/s. It is launched at a 55 degree angle and it hits after 42 seconds of flight.

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The Attempt at a Solution


--x component--

velocity: 172.1 m/s
distance: 7228.2 meters
time: 42 seconds
acceleration: 0 m/s/s

velocity = 300cos55
distance = 172.1 m/s x 42 seconds
time = given
acceleration = always zero

--y component--

velocity: 245.7 m/s
distance: ? - This is what I'm trying to figure out.
time: 25.0 seconds
acceleration: -9.81 m/s/s

velocity = 300sin55
distance = ??
time = 245.7 meters / 9.81 m/s/s
acceleration = -9.81 m/s/s

I am confused. Thank you very much.
 
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d = v1*t + (1/2)at^2

apply this to the vertical direction.
 
"velocity: 245.7 m/s
distance: ? - This is what I'm trying to figure out.
time: 25.0 seconds
acceleration: -9.81 m/s/s

velocity = 300sin55
distance = ??
time = 245.7 meters / 9.81 m/s/s
acceleration = -9.81 m/s/s"

You show your time to be 25.0 seconds, but this isn't quite correct. Essentially, you've calculated the amount of time that it would take for the rocket to reach its maximum height (i.e. vertical velocity = 0). However your total time in the air is still 42 seconds. This means your rocket now continues downward, and due to your coordinate system, it's portrayed as a negative velocity. Thus, you can now use the formula given in the last post, with your a=-9.81 , t = 42s, and v(initial) = 245.7m/s. You should pop out with something around 1.6km, a reasonable answer considering the average (Rocky) mountain is around 2.5km.
 
Coto said:
"velocity: 245.7 m/s
distance: ? - This is what I'm trying to figure out.
time: 25.0 seconds
acceleration: -9.81 m/s/s

velocity = 300sin55
distance = ??
time = 245.7 meters / 9.81 m/s/s
acceleration = -9.81 m/s/s"

You show your time to be 25.0 seconds, but this isn't quite correct. Essentially, you've calculated the amount of time that it would take for the rocket to reach its maximum height (i.e. vertical velocity = 0). However your total time in the air is still 42 seconds. This means your rocket now continues downward, and due to your coordinate system, it's portrayed as a negative velocity. Thus, you can now use the formula given in the last post, with your a=-9.81 , t = 42s, and v(initial) = 245.7m/s. You should pop out with something around 1.6km, a reasonable answer considering the average (Rocky) mountain is around 2.5km.

Thanks!
 

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