An Experiment to Measure Gravity Blockade in Superfluids

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of measuring gravity blockade in superfluids, particularly through an experimental setup involving a spherical shell filled with a superfluid surrounding a lead core. Participants explore the implications of superfluids potentially blocking gravitational waves and the feasibility of conducting experiments to test these theories.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that superfluids may block gravitational waves, suggesting that activating a superfluid could lead to a measurable drop in weight on a spring scale.
  • Others express skepticism about the practicality of turning lead into a superfluid, questioning the feasibility of such experiments given current technological limitations.
  • A participant raises concerns about the existing theories of gravity, noting that while there are many ideas in quantum gravity, General Relativity (GR) has consistently been validated by experimental results.
  • Some participants clarify that the original idea involves surrounding a lump of lead with a superfluid rather than transforming the lead itself into a superfluid.
  • There is a humorous suggestion about the potential need for a new term if superfluids become significantly important, playing on the word "superfluous."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and skepticism regarding the proposed experiment. While there is interest in the concept, there is no consensus on the feasibility or implications of the theory, and multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of superfluids and their interaction with gravity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of current understanding and the reliance on established theories like General Relativity, which has not been contradicted by experimental evidence. There is also mention of the ongoing development of quantum gravity theories, which remain speculative.

eNtRopY
Imagine, if you will, a thin spherical shell filled with a substance that can be made a superfluid with the flip of a switch. We fill the volume of the inner shell with lead. We place this system on a spring scale.

Now, according to recent theory, superfluids may in fact block gravitational waves. So, if we flip the switch on, so that the superfluid is on, we should immediately notice a drop in the measured weight of our system.

In fact, this ability to turn off gravity may actually help us measure the characteristics of gravitational waves.

eNtRopY
 
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wow, interesting.
but if turning lead into a superfluid was as easy as flipping a switch, we would know more than just theories
 
Greetings !
Originally posted by The_oMeGa
but if turning lead into a superfluid was as
easy as flipping a switch, we would know more
than just theories
:wink:

I still do not understand it, despite the
difficulties of cooling superconductors
and all and the pathetic and changing force
of gravity on Earth's surface - why can't
they just conduct a series of experiments
with them to see once and for all if
gravity is affected ? I mean if it's such a
hot subject and all and the potential
is high in usefullness terms - just get the
money and do it thoroughly. What's the problem ?

Live long and prosper.
 
Originally posted by The_oMeGa
wow, interesting.
but if turning lead into a superfluid was as easy as flipping a switch, we would know more than just theories

I don't think Ent was talking about "turning lead into a superfluid", but rather sarounding a lump of lead with a superfluid.

This is indeed an interesting idea. And one which seems so simple and obvious, I have to wonder if it hasn't already been done.

Also; if superfluids turn out to be of great importance and practical application, will we have to come up with a different word for "superfluous"?
 
Originally posted by LURCH
I don't think Ent was talking about "turning lead into a superfluid", but rather sarounding a lump of lead with a superfluid.

Thank you for understanding me, LURCH.

eNtRopY
 
Originally posted by eNtRopY
Now, according to recent theory, superfluids may in fact block gravitational waves. So, if we flip the switch on, so that the superfluid is on, we should immediately notice a drop in the measured weight of our system.

eNtRopY

The above may be stretching things a bit. There have been numerous attempts to formulate quantum gravity. Each of these ideas usually involves some predicted difference with General Relativity. At any point in time, there are probably dozens of work-in-process ideas being floated.

However, repeated tests of every aspect of gravity yields results consistent with the predictions of GR. Needless to say, if a superfluid blocked the Earth's gravity in any way, that would not be expected by GR.

I am certainly not saying that such an experiment shouldn't be performed; I just want to set the record straight about the current state of theory. At this point, GR rules safely and soundly, and continues to take on all comers.
 

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