Analog vs Digital: Audio Quality Differences Explained

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The discussion revolves around the differences in audio quality between analog and digital recordings, exploring both theoretical and subjective aspects of sound reproduction. Participants examine the implications of sampling rates, the nature of sound waves, and the preferences of audiophiles for analog media.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that analog recordings provide better sound quality than digital recordings, with audiophiles preferring the "warmer" sound of analog media like LPs.
  • Others argue that digital recordings, while based on discrete samples, can achieve high fidelity that may be indistinguishable from analog for most listeners.
  • A participant notes that digital conversions involve taking many samples, which can miss nuances compared to the continuous nature of analog sound.
  • There is a discussion about the limitations of analog media, such as LPs, which may not be truly continuous due to physical constraints.
  • Some participants reference the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem, suggesting that if the sampling rate is sufficiently high, digital recordings can replicate analog sound accurately.
  • Concerns are raised about sample resolution in digital recordings, with a participant questioning whether the sampling theorem addresses this aspect.
  • One participant mentions that higher sampling rates, like 192KHz, may provide benefits beyond human hearing capabilities, possibly related to distortion and filtering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the superiority of analog versus digital audio quality, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea that digital can match analog fidelity under certain conditions, while others maintain that analog has inherent advantages.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about sound reproduction, the subjective nature of audio quality, and the technical details of sampling rates and resolutions, which remain unresolved.

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one of my (former) profs mentioned why the sound quality of an analog recording is better than the sound on a digital recording but i can't remember what he said. can anyone explain to me the difference, or tell me where i can find out for myself?
 
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i think people will in the future go back to using analogue, or create analogue computers. then they wold be like...absolutely exact, rther than digital incraments.
 
Digital conversions take large numbers of samples of music in order to digitize them. This allows them to be stored in much more compact forms. The downside is that you aren't getting "the whole story" when it comes to the song. Every sample is a small moment in time whereas analog is just complete and continuous. It's kind of like taking a photograph. If you have an old fashion camera, it replicates the light and everythign on a continuous scale. If you have a digital camera that can say, only capture 10,000 different shades of color and only 50,000 pixels (obviously technology is vastly better then this), you won't see anything between say shade #5802 and #5803 (there's a different system of determining what color something is though of course). Also, you would have a 1 mm^2 area represented in a picture that is 1 pixel to the camera and it can only have 1 color whereas in reality, if you walk up to the object, that 1mm^2 area has many many many more colors and more details. Same with digital audio recordings.

Of course, at some point you can create a digital replica with so much detail that even audiophiles can't tell the difference... but technology today pretty much has it down to where the general public can't tell the difference between a vinyl analog record and an mp3. Not the technologies fault, more of the publics fault for not having that good of an ear.
 
sound quality of an analog recording is better than the sound on a digital recording
Audiophiles seem to have a preference for analogue media like LPs, saying they have a "warmer" sound. I guess it's a pretty subjective matter really.
absolutely exact, rther than digital incraments
But some would argue that no recording media can ever be truly analogue since LPs, for example, are limited in sample rate/resolution by the size of a PVC molecule (which is small, but certainly not infinitesimal). Assuming this is true, would anyone care to hazard a guess as to the sampling rate/resolution of an LP?
at some point you can create a digital replica with so much detail that even audiophiles can't tell the difference
Well, DVD audio allows for a sampling rate of 192KHz at 24-bit resolution. By the sampling theorem, this would allow for perfect reproduction (as is my understanding) of signals up to 96KHz, which seems like overkill given that the upper limit of human hearing is only about 20KHz. Perhaps it's so that bats, whales, etc. can listen too. :smile: Actually, I think it's something to do with filtering (having less steep cutoffs, yielding less distortion, or something like that).

In any case, I would submit that the sheer convenience of digital media outweighs any other consideration.
 
Phantom Photon, having a sampling rate of 192,000 samples per second, does have a difference to humans than say, 48KHz. It has nothing to do with our ability to hear pitches of sound higher than 20KHz.

And yes, it is possible with digital to reach the human maximum. Who's the guy who came up with the theorum for this? It is possible to reproduce analog sound to sound the same to us...
 
moose said:
Phantom Photon, having a sampling rate of 192,000 samples per second, does have a difference to humans than say, 48KHz. It has nothing to do with our ability to hear pitches of sound higher than 20KHz.

And yes, it is possible with digital to reach the human maximum. Who's the guy who came up with the theorum for this? It is possible to reproduce analog sound to sound the same to us...

i read up a bit about this & found a (very) informal explanation. the so-called audiophiles like analog better than digital (ie records vs cds) because rather than listening to an approximation of a wave you hear the actual wave itself. however, the nyqvist-shannon sampling theorem (aha! there it is) says that if the sampling rate of the digital thing (usually 44.1khz for cds) is at least twice the bandwidth of the analog thing the sound will be identical. i haven't looked at any signal processing books or seen the real statement of the theorem or its proof but i think that's the general idea.
 
moose said:
Phantom Photon, having a sampling rate of 192,000 samples per second, does have a difference to humans than say, 48KHz. It has nothing to do with our ability to hear pitches of sound higher than 20KHz.
Sorry, I must have misunderstood the sampling theorem. I thought that it was possible to recreate a 20KHz signal (and others of lower frequency) perfectly by means of a weighted sum of normalised sinc ( = sin(pi*x)/(pi*x)) functions but I think I got the wrong idea.
moose said:
And yes, it is possible with digital to reach the human maximum. Who's the guy who came up with the theorum for this? It is possible to reproduce analog sound to sound the same to us...
You might be thinking of the sampling theorem of Claude Shannon and Harry Nyquist (also attributed to some other guys) which is what I have been referring to.
 
fourier_jr said:
if the sampling rate of the digital thing (usually 44.1khz for cds) is at least twice the bandwidth of the analog thing the sound will be identical.
That's what I was thinking, but there's still the issue of sample resolution... the sampling theorem doesn't tell us anything about that... or does it? Could someone with DSP expertise settle this matter for us, please?
 
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