Analysis of Continuous functions

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The discussion revolves around a proof involving continuous functions, specifically addressing the properties of a function f: R → R that is continuous and positive in a certain set P. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that for any point x0 in P, there exists a neighborhood around x0 that remains within P.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of continuity and its implications for the function f. There is an attempt to relate the continuity of f to the existence of a neighborhood around points in P. Some participants express uncertainty about how to articulate their reasoning mathematically.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the definition of continuity and its application to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the continuity of f and the positivity of f(y) in the neighborhood of x0, though no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note challenges in translating intuitive or graphical understanding into formal mathematical language, which may be affecting their ability to progress in the proof.

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Homework Statement


Let f : R → R be continuous on R and assume that P = {x ∈ R : f(x) > 0} is non-empty. Prove that for any x0 ∈ P there exists a neighborhood Vδ(x0) ⊆ P.


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The Attempt at a Solution


If you choose some x, y ∈ P, since f(x) is continuous then |f(x) - f(y)| < ε for some ε>0
then |x-y|<δ for some δ(ε)

I don't really know where I'm going with this, but I know it has something to do with the question...
Can someone point me in the right direction?
 
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Locoism said:

Homework Statement


Let f : R → R be continuous on R and assume that P = {x ∈ R : f(x) > 0} is non-empty. Prove that for any x0 ∈ P there exists a neighborhood Vδ(x0) ⊆ P.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


If you choose some x, y ∈ P, since f(x) is continuous then |f(x) - f(y)| < ε for some ε>0
then |x-y|<δ for some δ(ε)

I don't really know where I'm going with this, but I know it has something to do with the question...
Can someone point me in the right direction?

You have to start with a correct statement of what continuity at x means. Finish this sentence correctly:

The statement that f(x) is continuous at x means ...
 
that for any ε>0 there exists δ(ε) such that for any y, if |x-y|<δ then |f(x)-f(y)|<ε.
I don't see how this is different from what I put down?
 
I'm finding it hard just to put it down into mathematical terms. I can prove it by sketching a drawing, but having trouble translating that...
 
Locoism said:
that for any ε>0 there exists δ(ε) such that for any y, if |x-y|<δ then |f(x)-f(y)|<ε.
I don't see how this is different from what I put down?

That may be why you are having difficulty with this type of problem. But leaving that aside for now, you have a value x0 where f(x0) > 0. The above statement with x = x0 says you can get f(y) close to f(x0). If you can do that is there some way you can guarantee f(y) is positive?
 

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