Analysis Problem: Finding f & f_n for ||f-f_n|| Convergence

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The discussion revolves around finding a function f defined on the unit circle and a sequence of functions {f_n} such that the norm ||f - f_n|| converges to 0, while f_n does not converge to f at any point on the unit circle.

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  • Participants explore various function forms for f and {f_n}, including oscillating functions and characteristic functions. There is a consideration of the implications of shrinking diameters and the need for non-convergence at specific points.

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Some participants have offered alternative function ideas, such as using characteristic functions, while others have pointed out the limitations of certain proposed functions. The discussion is ongoing with multiple interpretations being explored.

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There is a focus on the constraints of the problem, particularly the requirement that ||f - f_n|| converges to 0 without pointwise convergence of f_n to f. Participants are questioning the assumptions and definitions involved in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


let S' be the unit circle, C the set of complex numbers, R the set of real numbers, ||f|| = sqrt[integral(f^2) from -pi to pi] (the length or norm of f)

find a function f: S'->C (so f is 2-pi periodic) and a sequence of functions {f_n}:R->C so that
||f-f_n|| converges to 0 but we don't have f_n(x) converging to f(x) for ANY x in S'

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i was thinking of (-1)^n for f_n, and 0=f(x), but then ||f-f_n|| converges to 1, not 0
 
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You are right. (-1)^n doesn't work. You want a step type function whose center keeps oscillating over the interval [-pi,pi] while it's diameter keeps shrinking.
 
if its diameter keeps shrinking, then its limit will approach 0, hence not satisfying the 2nd part of the problem where it can't approach 0 for ANY x
 
Let c(I)(x) be the characteristic function for an interval I (i.e. c(I)(x)=1 for x in I, 0 otherwise). Suppose I want such a sequence of functions on the interval [0,1] instead of S'. Pick f_1=c([0,1/2]), f_2=c([1/2,1]), f_3=c([0,1/3]), f_4=c([1/3,2/3]), f_5=c([2/3,1]), f_6=c([0,1/4])... Let f=0.
 
thanks
 

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