Angle of Incidence for Internal Reflection

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the angle of incidence for total internal reflection in a glass slab, with specific indices of refraction for glass and a surrounding liquid. Participants are exploring the application of Snell's Law and the conditions necessary for total internal reflection to occur.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to apply Snell's Law to find the initial angle of incidence for total internal reflection, discussing their calculations and the angles involved. Questions arise regarding the relevance of a hint about the tangent function and its application in this context.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations related to the angles of incidence and refraction. Some participants have provided corrections to earlier assumptions and calculations, while others are seeking clarification on the implications of their findings and the professor's hints.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential typos in the problem statement and express confusion regarding the definition of critical angles and the professor's hints. There is also uncertainty about whether the problem requires a single answer or a range of values for the angle of incidence.

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Homework Statement


In the figure shown below, a light ray enters a glass slab (with index of refraction nglass = 1.65 ) at point A
and then undergoes total internal reflection at point B. The medium that surrounds the glass slab is a liquid whose
index of refraction, nliquid = 1.30. Find the value of the initial angle of incidence i for which total internal reflection
can take place.



Homework Equations


Snell's Law At point A: n (liquid) sin \Theta i = n (glass) sin \Theta 2

At Point B: n (liquid) sin \Theta 3 = n (liquid) sin 90

\Theta3=90-\Theta2


The Attempt at a Solution



Using the above equations I got the \Thetai=15.5, \Theta2=12.12, and \Theta3=77.88

Now what has thrown me off is the HINT the professor gave , which was tan\Theta=sin \Theta/cos\Theta.

What is this equation for? I can't seem to find the relevance in my text or notes. AND what value would I use for \Theta, the \Theta for i ?
 

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Hi cgaleb,

cgaleb said:

Homework Statement


In the figure shown below, a light ray enters a glass slab (with index of refraction nglass = 1.65 ) at point A
and then undergoes total internal reflection at point B. The medium that surrounds the glass slab is a liquid whose
index of refraction, nliquid = 1.30. Find the value of the initial angle of incidence i for which total internal reflection
can take place.



Homework Equations


Snell's Law At point A: n (liquid) sin \Theta i = n (glass) sin \Theta 2

At Point B: n (liquid) sin \Theta 3 = n (liquid) sin 90

It's probably just a typo, but the first n(liquid) should be n(glass).

\Theta3=90-\Theta2


The Attempt at a Solution



Using the above equations I got the \Thetai=15.5, \Theta2=12.12, and \Theta3=77.88

I don't believe the 77.88 degrees is correct for the critical angle \theta_3 (using the corrected version of your point B equation). If you are still getting that number, can you show the details of how you got it?
 
Yeah-you are right about the typo. The professor said that \Theta3=90-\Theta2, so I took 90o-12.12 (my \Theta2=77.88.

All of my angles add up to 180o. (o=degrees) 90o+12.12o+77.88o=180.

We covered all of this stuff 3 chapters today, and he really only touched on the topics, giving us "hints" to select problems. So, I'm really trying to learn this myself, as well as relearn basic algebra/trig. He didn't even mention a critical angle, and I've tried to look it up, but need the definition dumbed down, I guess...

How does my work look?
 
Oh, guess I'll add this as it may help

N(glass)sin\Theta3=n(liquid)sin90o
So, sin \Theta3=sin(90o-\Theta2)
Therefore
1.65 (1-sin\Theta2)=1.3 (1)
and sin\Theta2=.21
So, \Theta2=12.12

Is my logic sound?
 
cgaleb said:
Oh, guess I'll add this as it may help

Yes, this last post is exactly what you needed to show. Without your work I was not able to see how you got your answers.

N(glass)sin\Theta3=n(liquid)sin90o
So, sin \Theta3=sin(90o-\Theta2)
Therefore
1.65 (1-sin\Theta2)=1.3 (1)

This is where the numerical error is, because sin(90-theta) is not equal to (1- sin(theta)).

However, you don't need to go that far. Look at your first equation:

N(glass)sin\Theta3=n(liquid)sin90o

In that equation, you know everything except \theta_3 so you can solve for that angle first. Then finding \theta_2 and \theta_1 is straightforward from the other two equations.
 
Alright, I plugged in the work just like you said, and came up with \Theta i =51.1,
\Theta 2 =37.8, and \Theta 3 =52.2. Hoping that this is right...

If so, what do I do next, I'm still confused about my professor's tan\Theta = sin \Theta / cos \Theta

Which # would I use for \Theta in this scenario, and what does this equation solve for?

BTW, Thanks for the help!

Crossing fingers...
 
cgaleb said:
Alright, I plugged in the work just like you said, and came up with \Theta i =51.1,
\Theta 2 =37.8, and \Theta 3 =52.2. Hoping that this is right...

Those numbers are close to what I got (I got 51.9877 degrees for \theta_3).

If so, what do I do next, I'm still confused about my professor's tan\Theta = sin \Theta / cos \Theta

Which # would I use for \Theta in this scenario, and what does this equation solve for?

I think that would give an alternative way of finding \theta_1. For example, you can use the fact that \theta_2+\theta_3=90^{\circ}, and \sin(90^{\circ}-\theta)=\cos(\theta), and then divide the Snell's law equations to relate \theta_3 and \theta_1.

The wording of the problem question seems a bit strange to me. Just to check: did it ask for the value of the initial angle of incidence, or did it ask for the values of the initial angle of incidence? In other words, was it asking for a single answer or a range of answers?

Either way, you already have the angle of incidence (at point A) that is the crossover between total reflection (at point B) happening or not. So if they do want a range of values, all you have to decide is if angles of incidence (at point A) that are greater than or less than \theta_1 also give total reflection at point B.
 
I believe its just a single answer problem. The wording "find the value of the initial angle of incidence for which total internal reflection can take place" is a bit tricky. But I feel great having finally sovled the intial angle of incidence, regardless. THANK YOU so much for all of your help!
 

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