Angular momentum and Quantum Number l

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The problem involves two masses connected by a rigid rod, rotating about their center of mass with a specified angular frequency. The discussion focuses on calculating the quantum number \( l \) related to angular momentum and the energy difference between adjacent \( l \)-values.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of moment of inertia and its application in finding angular momentum. There are questions about the correctness of the formulas used and the assumptions made regarding the mass of the rod.

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Some participants are attempting to verify the moment of inertia calculations and the corresponding angular momentum. There is an ongoing exploration of the formulas and potential errors in the original poster's approach, with no clear consensus yet on the correct method.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying the moment of inertia formula and the implications of ignoring the mass of the rod in the calculations. There is also a mention of a potential typo in the original equations presented.

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Move here from another forum, so no homework template.
The question: Consider two masses of 0.1 gm each, connected by a rigid rod of length 0.5 cm, rotating about their center of mass with an angular frequency of 800 rad/s. a.) What is the value of l corresponding to this situation? b.) What is the energy difference between adjacent l-values for the l you have just calculated?

Relevant equations:
Moment of Intertia about center of mass = ∑miri
L=I * ω
L= ħ[l(l+1)]1/2

My attempt at part a of the problem:
r= 0.0025m
mass= 0.0001 kg

I = 2 * (0.0001 kg) * (0.0025 m2) = 1.25 * 10-9 kg m2

L = 1.25 * 10-9 kg m2 * 800 rad/s

L/ħ = 9.48*1027 = [l(l+1)]1/2

Which this is the answer, but when I solve for l(the quantum number for angular momentum) I get a number with order of magnitude of 1055 am I completely overlooking something here? I can't think of any other ways to solve this problem. Thank you in advance for your help!
 
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krawls30 said:
Moment of Intertia about center of mass = ∑miri

Are you sure this is correct?
 
I think so... I used this website http://socratic.org/questions/how-do-you-find-moment-of-inertia-of-two-point-masses
 
Look again, that gives the another formula than what you wrote
 
Well I also tried 1/12 ML2 but that still isn't working.
 
No you have to square the radius. I = mr^2, not mr.
krawls30 said:
Well I also tried 1/12 ML2 but that still isn't working.
I don;t see that on the page
 
OH that's my mistake, that was a typo it's supposed to be Σmiri2
 
If you don't know the mass of the ord you can't use the second equation because M is the mass of the rod
 
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it's a rigid body.. so the mass of the rod is being ignored
 

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