Angular Momentum of Collapsing Cloud

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The discussion focuses on deriving the final radius of a collapsing cloud in astrophysics using angular momentum conservation and gravitational dynamics. The equation derived is r_{f} = \frac{{{\omega_{0}}^{2} {r_{0}}^{4}}} {{2 G M_{r}}}, where M_{r} represents the interior mass. The participants emphasize the importance of considering the centripetal acceleration term and correctly applying conservation laws to achieve the solution. The final insights confirm that the radial velocity v_{r} must equal zero at the final radius, ensuring the cloud stops collapsing.

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Homework Statement


Beginning with


\frac{d^2 r}{dt^2} = -G\frac{M_{r}}{r^2}
, adding a centripetal acceleration term, and using conservation of angular momentum, show that the collapse of a cloud will stop in a plane perpendicular to its axis of rotation when the radius reaches
r_{f} = \frac{{{\omega_{0}}^{2} {r_{0}}^{4}}} {{2 G M_{r}}}

where M_{r} is the interior mass. Assume the initial radial velocity of the cloud is zero and that r_{f} \ll r_{0}

Hint: \frac{d^2 r}{dt^2} = v_{r} \frac{dv_{r}}{dr}

Homework Equations



Adding the centripetal term:\frac{d^2 r}{dt^2} = r{\omega}^2 - G\frac{M_{r}}{r^2}

The Attempt at a Solution

Since we are only concerned with the plane perpendicular to the axis of rotation, the mass concerned will be a thin disk the whole time so :

L_{i} = \frac{1}{2}M_{r}{{r_{0}^{2}}{\omega}_{0} L_{f} = \frac{1}{2}M_{r}r_{f}^{2}{\omega}_{f}L_{i} = L_{f}

{\omega}_{f} = \frac{r_{0}^{2}}{r_{f}^{2}}{\omega}_{0}

When the cloud stops collapsing v_{r} = 0

so from the equation given:r_{f}\omega_{f}^2 = G\frac{M_{r}}{r_{f}^{2}}<br />

Plugging in for {\omega_{f}}r_{f}\left[\frac{r_{0}^{4}}{r_{f}^{4}}\omega_{0}^{2}\right] = \frac{GM}{r_{f}^{2}}\Rightarrow r_{f} = \frac{r_0^{4}{\omega_{0}^{2}}}{GM}

which 2 times too large.
 
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You found a condition such that

v_r \frac{dv_r}{dr} =0,

you didn't show that v_r=0 at this radius because it could be (and is) the case that dv_r/dr vanishes there instead. What you should do is use angular momentum conservation to find the r dependence of \omega. Then you can integrate the equation of motion to determine v_r(r). Determining when that vanishes will yield the expected result. You will want to use the suggested approximation to simplify finding the root.
 
That makes perfect sense. Thank you very much I have arrived at the correct answer.
 

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