Another doubt in Peskin Schroeder Sec 4.2

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This discussion revolves around a specific text in Peskin and Schroeder regarding the evolution operator U(t,t') in quantum field theory, particularly in the context of the interaction picture. Participants are exploring the relationship between different definitions of U(t,t') and U(t,t_0), as well as the implications of the Hamiltonians involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reproduces a statement from Peskin and Schroeder about U(t,t') and questions how to derive it from the differential equation provided.
  • Another participant claims to have proven that U(t,t') satisfies the boundary conditions and the differential equation but expresses confusion about the discrepancy between this and the original definition of U(t,t_0).
  • A different participant suggests that the differences in U(t,t') and U(t,t_0) may stem from the different pictures (Schrödinger vs Heisenberg vs Interaction) being considered.
  • Another participant notes that the use of a reference time t_0 is crucial and that the definitions of fields at fixed times must be consistent with the evolution described by U.
  • One participant requests clarification on the original poster's question, indicating a lack of understanding of the specific issue being raised and emphasizing the correctness of the material in Peskin and Schroeder.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between U(t,t') and U(t,t_0), with some agreeing on the correctness of the material in Peskin and Schroeder while others remain confused about the implications and derivations involved. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the precise nature of the discrepancies.

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Participants note the importance of the reference time t_0 and the different pictures in quantum mechanics, but the exact implications and definitions remain unresolved. There is also uncertainty about which specific expressions or equations are being referenced in the discussion.

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This doubt is about a text in Peskin Schroeder Pg 86. I reproduce it here.
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U(t,t') satisfies the same differential equation (4.18),

<br /> i \frac{\partial}{\partial t} U(t,t&#039;) = H_I(t) U(t,t&#039;)<br />

but now with the initial condition U=1 for t=t&#039;. From this equation you can show that

<br /> U(t,t&#039;) = e^{iH_0(t-t_0)}e^{-iH(t-t&#039;)}e^{-iH_0(t&#039;-t_0)}<br />

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Here H = H_0+H_{int} = H_{KG} + \int d^3x \frac{\lambda}{4!} \phi(\textbf{x})^4
and
H_I = \int d^3x \frac{\lambda}{4!} \phi_I^4.

Can anyone explain how "one can show" the second statement that Peskin Schroeder makes?
 
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OK, I have been able to prove that the function mentioned above does indeed satisfy the boundary conditions and the differential equation mentioned. So, it is after all a solution to the diffeq. Now, my doubt is this. The original definition of U(t,t_0) was as follows (ref. Page 84)

<br /> U(t,t_0) = e^{iH_0(t-t_0)}e^{-i H(t-t_0)}<br />

Then we found the differential equation that the above satisfies so as to simplify the expression in terms of \phi_I. However, if we use the above definition of U(t,t_0), we surely do not reproduce the expression I have written in my first post. What is going wrong here?
 
I don't have my Peskin and Schroeder in front of me, but IIRC, aren't the U's different because of the pictures being considered in each case (i.e. Schrondinger vs Heisenberg vs Interaction picture)?

Maybe the first takes you from the Schrödinger Picture to the Interaction Picture, or something similar?

Just a guess. I'll try and check P&S later on.

Seems like I struggled with this same thing a ways back
 
The point is (I think) related to their use of a reference time t_0 which is different from their use of t'.

One defines fields at a fixed time t_0 in the Schrödinger picture (p83), and all subsequent statements about time evolution have got to make reference to this initial definition in some way, shape or form. The original definition of U relates the interaction picture field at some time t to its original definition back at t_0. The second seems to relate the field at time t to some arbitrary earlier time, t'. I think the "extra" complex exponential appearing relates the field at t' to that at t_0. Note that it's the free Hamiltonian H_0 that's used here, as this is what relates the interaction field configurations at two different times. What I can't work out is precisely what picture field is being related to what, a precise statement of the point of U(t,t') analogous to equation 4.16. I might try and look at this again tomorrow.
 
praharmitra,

Please try to phrase your question more explicitly. I've read your posts 3 times, and
I still don't know for sure what you're asking.

I can tell you that the stuff in that section of P&S is indeed correct.

I can tell you that t_0 is the time at which the fields expressed in
Heisenberg picture coincide with the fields expressed in Interaction picture.
See their eq(4.14).

Please be more explicit about which expression(s) and/or equation(s)
you're unable to derive in P&S. I.e., you said:

if we use the above definition of U(t,t_0) , we surely do not
reproduce the expression I have written in my first post.

Which expression?
And show a detail calculation why/where you think P&S is wrong.
 

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