Another isometric imbedding problem

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This discussion centers on the properties of equivalence relations and isometric embeddings in metric spaces, specifically focusing on the metric space (X, d) and the equivalence relation defined by Cauchy sequences. The participants demonstrate that the relation is indeed an equivalence relation and that the metric D on the set of equivalence classes Y is well-defined. They also explore the continuity of the isometric embedding h: X → Y, concluding that h is continuous by leveraging the properties of isometries. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using the ε-δ definition for continuity and suggests that every isometric embedding is inherently continuous.

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  • #31
Well, this is actually pretty easy, and we have already proved it.

As stated, a Cauchy sequence in Y corresponds to a Cauchy sequence xn in X. By (c), h(xn) converges to [(x1, x2, ...)] in Y.
 
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  • #32
Have we already proved that? Well, then it's pretty easy indeed!
 
  • #33
micromass said:
Have we already proved that? Well, then it's pretty easy indeed!

Yes, it's basically in post #10, unless I'm mistaken.
 
  • #34
Ah yes, it is basically the same thing indeed! That completes your completion exercise :biggrin:
 
  • #35
micromass said:
Ah yes, it is basically the same thing indeed! That completes your completion exercise :biggrin:

Yes... So the purpose of this exercise was to show another way to imbed a metric space into a complete metric space, through a relation defined for Cauchy sequences of the original space.

The other way to imbed some metric space was (Theorem 43.7., and actually I dislike this theorem) through the set of all bounded functions from that space into R...i.e. there is an imbedding of (X, d) into the set of all bounded functions from X to R in the uniform metric.
 
  • #36
Yes, now you've shown that every metric space has a completion. The usual way to prove this is by exercise 9. The reason most textbooks prefer exercise 9 is because it can be easily generalized and because the completion is very easy to describe.

One can in fact also show that the completion is unique. This is actually a consequence of exercise 2.

Also note that \mathbb{Q} is an incomplete metric space. It's completion is of course \mathbb{R}. And exercise 9 now gives a very easy idea of how to construct \mathbb{R}! Just take all Cauchy sequences of rational numbers...
 
  • #37
micromass said:
Also note that \mathbb{Q} is an incomplete metric space. It's completion is of course \mathbb{R}. And exercise 9 now gives a very easy idea of how to construct \mathbb{R}! Just take all Cauchy sequences of rational numbers...

Wow, I never thought of it that way! Thanks!

Btw, basically, this doesn't strictly have much to do with topology, right? i.e. it's more about metric spaces...
 
  • #38
Yes, this is more analysis than topology. In fact, entire chapter 7 seems to be more about metric spaces than topology.

If you're going to study functional analysis, then you're going to see much of chapter 7 again. Specifically, the completion is very important in functional analysis! But you're correct, it's not really topology...
 

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