Real Analysis: show sequences have the same limit if |Xn-Yn| approaches 0

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The problem involves sequences {Xn} and {Yn} in ℝ, with the condition that |Xn - Yn| approaches 0. The goal is to demonstrate that either both sequences are divergent or they converge to the same limit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss proving that if one sequence converges, the other must also converge, and if one diverges, so must the other. There are questions about the implications of |Xn - Yn| approaching 0 and whether this indicates that the limits of the sequences are equal.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the proof and questioning the validity of certain steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the proof, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach or the conclusions drawn from the conditions given.

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Participants express uncertainty about the implications of the limit condition and the assumptions required for the proof. There is also mention of the need to clarify the relationship between the limits of the sequences.

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Homework Statement



Suppose {Xn}, {Yn} are sequences in ℝ and that |Xn-Yn|→0. Show that either: a) {Xn} and {Yn} are both divergent or b) {Xn} and {Yn} have the same limit.

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I first prove that lim(Xn-Yn)=lim(Xn)-lim(Yn). I am not completely clear on the validity of this proof.
Since |Xn-Yn|→0, |Xn-Yn-(x-y)|<ε. Now |Xn-Yn-(x-y)|=|(Xn-x)-(Yn-y)|≥|Xn-x|-|Yn-y| (from the triangle inequality).
So, |Xn-x|-|Yn-y|<ε. Therefore, the lim(Xn-Yn)=lim(Xn)-lim(Yn).

So, we have that lim(Xn-Yn)=lim(Xn)-lim(Yn). Then, if I assume Xn→x, then 0=x-lim(Yn). So, lim(Yn)=x. So, they have the same limit. If Xn does not have a limit, then both {Xn} and {Yn} must be divergent.

I would like to know if this is the correct approach to take and if the proof is correct. Thank You.
 
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What you really need to prove are the following:

1) If one of them, say {xn}, converges, then so does the other.

2) If one of them diverges, then so does the other.

You can alternatively prove this by contradiction as follows. Assume one of them converges, and one of them diverges. Then show that this,
together with limn→∞|xn - yn|=0, leads to a contradiction.
 
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But you still have to prove that if both of them converge that they converge to the same value?
I don't quite understand what is implied by limn→∞|xn-yn|=0. Does this mean the lim(xn)→lim(yn)?
 
nyr91188 said:
But you still have to prove that if both of them converge that they converge to the same value?
I don't quite understand what is implied by limn→∞|xn-yn|=0. Does this mean the lim(xn)→lim(yn)?

No, you do.

limn→∞(xn-yn)=0 means |Xn-Yn|→0
 
I meant you as a general you, meaning whoever is doing the proof, meaning me. Anyway, I'm not looking for answers so calm down. I'm just trying to understand the steps of the proof. Does limn→∞(xn-yn)=0 mean that xn and yn converge to the same value (namely, that x=y)?
 
Also, I don't understand what would be wrong with proving lim(xn-yn)=lim(xn)-lim(yn) [which I now figured out how to prove correctly], and then say that assuming xn→x then 0=x-lim(yn) and lim(yn)=x. Otherwise, if xn does not approach x, then of course yn is also divergent.
 
nyr:

Assume for a moment that the difference xn-yn is always positive, or nonnegative. What can you then say about Limn→∞|xn-yn|? Consider then all other possible cases re the difference xn-yn
 

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