Convergence of Uniformly Continuous Functions on Metric Spaces

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The problem involves sequences of continuous functions from a topological space to a metric space, specifically focusing on the uniform convergence of these functions and the convergence of their outputs at a sequence of points. The original poster is tasked with showing that if a sequence of functions converges uniformly, then the outputs at a converging sequence of points also converge to the output of the limit function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to leverage the properties of uniform convergence and continuity but expresses uncertainty about the convergence of the sequence of function outputs. They also introduce a lemma related to the convergence of sequences in metric spaces.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, providing suggestions for refining their approach. Some participants confirm the correctness of the lemma presented, while others emphasize the importance of uniform convergence in the context of the problem. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the convergence of the sequence of function outputs.

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The discussion includes a focus on the implications of uniform convergence versus pointwise convergence, highlighting the necessity of uniform convergence for the arguments being made. The original poster notes a potential gap in their reasoning regarding the convergence of the sequence of function outputs.

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Homework Statement



For some reason, although it looks simple, it's giving me trouble.

Let X be a topological space, and Y a metric space. Let fn : X --> Y be a sequence of continuous functions, and let xn be a sequence of points in X converging to x. Show that if fn converges uniformly to f, then (fn(xn)) converges to f(x).

The Attempt at a Solution



The facts I know:

i) since fn is a sequence of continuous finctions which converges uniformly to f, f is continuous
ii) since f is continuous, f(xn) converges to f(x).

Now, since fn converges uniformly to f, for every ε > 0 there exists some N such that for all x in X and for any n >= N, d(fn(x), f(x)) < ε holds. (iii)

I need to show that for any ε > 0, there exists some integer N such that, for all n >=N d(fn(xn), f(x)) < ε holds.

Let ε > o be given. Since, because of uniform convergence (iii) holds for any x, it holds for the members of the sequence xn, too. So, there exists N such that for n >= N, d(fn(xn), f(xn)) < ε holds. Now I'm stuck. Could this mean that the sequences fn(xn) and f(xn) converge to the same limit? Since then fn(xn) would definitely converge to f(x). But I can't find a theorem or result which says anything about that right now.

Perhaps I'm not on the right track at all. Thanks for any replies.
 
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You're almost there -- you have all the pieces, you just need to put them together.

Would it illuminate anything if I suggested that you choose N so that for n &gt; N and every x&#039; \in X (thus, in particular, for the x_n) you have d(f_n(x&#039;), f(x&#039;)) &lt; \frac\epsilon2 ?
 
ystael, just before I read your answer, and just before I think about it, I came up with a Lemma which I proved (hopefully correct - if it works, I proved what I need to prove.)

Lemma. Let xn and yn be sequences in the metric space (X, d), with xn --> x and yn --> y. If for every ε > 0 there is a positive integer N such that for all n >= N, d(xn, yn) < ε holds, then x = y.

Proof. Let ε > 0 be given. Since xn and yn converge, for ε/2 there is some N1 such that n>= N1 implies d(xn, x) < ε/2, and some N2 such that n>= N2 implies d(yn, y) < ε/2. Let N3 be the integer associated with ε. Let N = max{N1, N2, N3}. Then d(x, y) <= d(x, xn) + d(xn, yn) + d(yn, y) < 2ε, for all n >= N. Since this holds for any ε > 0, we conclude that d(x, y) = 0, i.e. x = y.
 
This lemma and its proof are correct.
 
OK, but there's one step more I'm not sure about in the proof of the original problem - we know that f(xn) --> f(x), but I don't know if fn(xn) converges (which is partially what I need to show) - without this, I can't apply the Lemma above, it just occurred to me.

I know that fn(xn) --> fn(x), since fn is continuous for every n, but that's a different thing. I'm interested in the convergence of the sequence f1(x1), f2(x2), ... and not fn(x1), fn(x2), ...
 
ystael said:
You're almost there -- you have all the pieces, you just need to put them together.

Would it illuminate anything if I suggested that you choose N so that for n &gt; N and every x&#039; \in X (thus, in particular, for the x_n) you have d(f_n(x&#039;), f(x&#039;)) &lt; \frac\epsilon2 ?

OK, let ε > 0 be given. Then, for ε/2 there exist some N1 such shat for n >= N1, d(fn(xn), f(xn)) < ε/2 and some N2 such that for n >= n2, d(f(xn), f(x)) < ε/2. If N = max {N1, N2}, we have d(fn(xn), f(x)) <= d(fn(xn), f(xn)) + d(f(xn), f(x)) < ε, for any n >= N. Hence, fn(xn) converges to f(x).
 
This is correct. Make sure you are clear on how this construction requires uniform convergence of (f_n) to f. When you say "there exists some N_1 such that for n \geq N_1, d(f_n(x_n), f(x_n)) &lt; \frac\epsilon2", the point x_n is not constant in the limit expression, so this statement is not true if (f_n) only converges to f pointwise.
 
ystael said:
This is correct. Make sure you are clear on how this construction requires uniform convergence of (f_n) to f. When you say "there exists some N_1 such that for n \geq N_1, d(f_n(x_n), f(x_n)) &lt; \frac\epsilon2", the point x_n is not constant in the limit expression, so this statement is not true if (f_n) only converges to f pointwise.

Yes, I'm aware of that. It allows us to "fit in" members of the sequence xn.

Thanks a lot for your help.
 
By the way, the way I tried to prove it, along with the Lemma in one of the posts above, it doesn't seem to work, right? Because of what I wrote in post #5..?
 

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