Another Mechanics Problem Using Vectors

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The problem involves two particles moving in the x-y plane, with given velocity vectors dependent on time. Participants are tasked with calculating kinetic energy, acceleration, force, and the distance between the two particles at a specific time.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for kinetic energy, acceleration, and force, with some expressing uncertainty about the integration process for determining position vectors. There is also a focus on verifying the correctness of the velocity vector used in the integration.

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Some participants confirm the correctness of earlier parts of the problem, while others point out a potential error in the integration of the velocity vector for one of the particles. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify and correct the approach to part D, with productive feedback being exchanged.

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Participants are navigating the implications of a sign error in the velocity vector and its effect on subsequent calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the integration reflects the correct mathematical representation of the problem.

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Homework Statement


the unit vectors i and j are parallel to the cordinate axey Ox and Oy. Two particles A and B each have a mass of 0.4kg, they both leave the origin O at the same time, and move in the x-y plane. The velocity vectors at t time for A and B are (4t\hat{i} + 6t\hat{j})m/s and (3t^2\hat{i}-2\hat{j})m/s respectively.

A: calculate in Joules the kinetic energy of B when t=2
B: Find the acceleration vector of A and prove the force acting on A is constant
C: calculate to the nearest 0.1N the magntiude of F and find to the nearest degree the angly between Oy and the line of action of F.
D:Find the distance between A and B when t=2.

I am unsure on all of them to be honest, I am not sure if I am using the vectors correctly and especially my integration as I can't see where any integration constants are.

Homework Equations



KE=0.5mv^2
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Part A:
First I find the magnitude of the velocity of B
<br /> \dot{r_b}= 3(2)^2\hat{i} - 2\hat{j} \\<br /> \dot{r_b} = 12\hat{i} - 2\hat{j} \\<br /> |\dot{r_b}|= \sqrt{12^2 + 2^2} = 12.17m/s<br />
and then use that in the KE formula
<br /> KE=\frac{1}{2}mv^2 \\<br /> KE=\frac{1}{2}0.4(12.17)^2 \\<br /> KE=0.2 \times 148.11 = 29.62J \\<br />

Part B:
I differentiate to get the acceleration vector
<br /> \ddot{r_a}=4\hat{i}+6\hat{j}<br />
and as the I and J components are not functions of time that means the force must be constant as the acceleration is constant. Is that correct?

Part C:
I use Newtons second law to find F
<br /> F=0.4(4\hat{i}+6\hat{j}) \\<br /> F=1.6\hat{i}+2.4\hat{j} \\<br /> |F|=\sqrt{1.6^2+2.4^2}=2.9N <br />
And then to get the angle i did..
<br /> arctan(\frac{2.4}{1.6})=56.31 \\<br /> 90-56.31=34° <br />
to the nearest degree, I took the 56.31 from 90 as the question wants the angle between F and the y-axis, i hope I done it correct.

Part D:
To find the distance I first found both of the position vectors by integrating.
<br /> r_a=∫(4t\hat{i}+6t\hat{j}) \ dt = 2t^2\hat{i}+3t^2\hat{j} \\<br /> r_b=∫(3t^2\hat{i}+2\hat{j}) \ dt = t^3\hat{i}+2t\hat{j} \\<br />
And it asks when t is 2 so then i found the position vectors for both when t=2
<br /> r_a=2(2)^2\hat{i}+3(2)^2\hat{j} = 8\hat{i}+12\hat{j} \\<br /> r_b=(2)^3\hat{i}+2(2)\hat{j} = 8\hat{i}+4\hat{j}<br />
And then taking b from a
<br /> (8\hat{i}+12\hat{j})-(8\hat{i}+4\hat{j})=8\hat{j}<br />
and then the magnitude
<br /> \sqrt{8^2}=8m<br />

Any help is appreciated. :)
 
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your answers to parts A,B,C all look correct. But in part D, you use
r_b=∫(3t^2\hat{i}+2\hat{j}) \ dt = t^3\hat{i}+2t\hat{j} \\
But I don't think this is right, because the velocity vector that was given is:
(3t^2\hat{i}-2\hat{j})m/s
Maybe you accidentally forgot the minus sign?
p.s. excellent name :)
 
BruceW said:
your answers to parts A,B,C all look correct. But in part D, you use
r_b=∫(3t^2\hat{i}+2\hat{j}) \ dt = t^3\hat{i}+2t\hat{j} \\
But I don't think this is right, because the velocity vector that was given is:
(3t^2\hat{i}-2\hat{j})m/s
Maybe you accidentally forgot the minus sign?
p.s. excellent name :)

Ah thanks for point that out!

So should it be...

r_b=∫(3t^2\hat{i}-2\hat{j}) \ dt = t^3\hat{i}-2t\hat{j} \\
and then taking the difference and magnitude then becomes..
<br /> (8\hat{i}+12\hat{j})-(8\hat{i}-4\hat{j})=16\hat{j} \\<br /> \sqrt{16^2}=16m<br />
 
yep. looks good, nice work! pretty neat too. it makes it easy to read, so thanks!
 
BruceW said:
yep. looks good, nice work! pretty neat too. it makes it easy to read, so thanks!

Thanks for your help :)
 

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