Answer: Solving Integral of sin2x/1+sin²x dx

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral of sin(2x)/(1+sin²(x)) dx. Participants explore various methods of integration, including trigonometric identities and substitution techniques. The conversation includes both a specific problem and a related integral problem.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral and notes the book's answer as "ln(1+sin²x)+c".
  • Another suggests rewriting sin(2x) using the identity sin(2x) = 2sin(x)cos(x) and looking for a substitution.
  • A participant explains the substitution u = 1 + sin²(x) and derives the integral as ∫(1/u) du = ln(u) + c.
  • Another participant reiterates the substitution process and confirms the final result as ln(1+sin²(x)) + C.
  • Some participants express appreciation for seeing multiple methods to approach the problem, emphasizing the value of different perspectives.
  • A new integral problem is introduced involving (sin(x) - cos(x))², with a participant suggesting expansion and the use of trigonometric identities for solving it.
  • Another participant provides a brief outline of how to approach the new integral by expanding it and identifying terms that can be simplified.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods of substitution and the final result for the initial integral. However, the discussion introduces a new integral problem that remains unresolved, with participants providing different approaches without reaching a consensus.

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Some steps in the integration process are not fully detailed, and there may be assumptions regarding the familiarity with trigonometric identities and integration techniques that are not explicitly stated.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in integral calculus, particularly those looking for various methods of solving trigonometric integrals, may find this discussion beneficial.

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Hi,

I don't know where is to place this thread. Please can you solve the following integeration problem.
(Note: sign of integeration is replaced by "S").

S sin2x/1+sin²x dx

the answer in the book is "ln(1+sin²x)+c"
 
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rewrite the numerator using the trig identity sin(2x) = 2 sin(x)cos(x)
then look for a nice substitution.
 
Could you explain your answer!
 
\int \frac{\sin 2x}{1+sin^2 x}\,dx

Put u = 1 + sin^2 x. Then:

du = 2 \sin x \cos x\,dx = \sin 2x\,dx

So, your integral becomes:

\int \frac{1}{u}\,du = \ln u + c = \ln (1 + \sin^2 x) + c
 
We can do the following:

sin(2x) = 2 sin(x)cos(x)

This can be placed in for sin(2x), giving us:

\frac{2sin(x)cos(x)}{1 + sin^2(x)}

Now we make a u-substitution:

u= 1+ sin^2 (x)

So

du = 2sin(x)cos(x)dx

and we can replace the integral as such:

\int \frac{1}{u}du

Now this is simply 1/u which equals ln (u)

so the anwser is ln(u), where u is equal to what we previously stated:

ln(1+sin^2(x))+C

where C is the constant of integration.

I hope that helps you out.

Cheers,

Cyrus

Edit: Damn, james beat me to it!GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :smile:
 
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Doh! Don't you hate it when that happens!
 
But it's never a wasted post. Seeing two ways of doing it, even though they're essentially the same, are always better then just one.
 
quasar987 said:
But it's never a wasted post. Seeing two ways of doing it, even though they're essentially the same, are always better then just one.


I agree with you totally on this. I always found it comforting having more than one way to work a problem. [/color]
 
Can you solve this too
S (sinx-cos)² dx

Answer:- x+sin2x/2 +c
 
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Expand it out, and solve the integral, its not hard once you expand it. You will have a sin squared term, plus a cos squared term, which add up to one, plus a -2sinxcosx term. And if you notice, you can use the trig identity from your first question.
 
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Cradle_of_Knowledge said:
Hi,

I don't know where is to place this thread. Please can you solve the following integeration problem.
(Note: sign of integeration is replaced by "S").

S sin2x/1+sin²x dx

the answer in the book is "ln(1+sin²x)+c"

1) sin2x=2sinxcosx

2) u=sinx => du=cosx dx

the intergral come:

2 * intergral{ u/(1+u^2) du}

make substitution as again.

this time let w= 1+u^2 => dw= 2u du

blah blah...
 

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