Antiparticle Mass: Dirac Equation & E=mc^2

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The discussion revolves around the implications of the Dirac equation on the mass of antiparticles, specifically questioning whether antiparticle masses could be negative based on the equation E=mc². Participants explore theoretical aspects, potential contradictions, and interpretations of experimental evidence regarding the mass of antimatter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the Dirac equation predicts antiparticles with negative energy, leading to the question of whether antiparticle masses should be negative.
  • Others argue that there is conclusive evidence that the inertial mass of antimatter is positive, although the gravitational mass remains less certain.
  • A participant questions the validity of the equations or experiments if antimatter mass is indeed positive.
  • One participant explains that electron-positron annihilation produces photons with energy equivalent to the rest mass of the particles, indicating that negative mass would create inconsistencies in this process.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of the Dirac sea and how it accounts for the existence of antiparticles without implying negative mass.
  • Some participants challenge the interpretation of E=mc², suggesting that it does not predict the sign of mass and can be understood in the context of the relativistic energy-momentum relation.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the Dirac equation and the nature of antiparticle mass. There is no consensus on whether antiparticle masses can be negative or the correctness of interpretations regarding E=mc².

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Some claims rely on interpretations of theoretical frameworks and experimental evidence that may not be universally accepted. The discussion reflects ongoing debates in theoretical physics regarding the nature of antimatter and its properties.

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I've heard that the dirac equation predicts antiparticles with negative energy. Since for particles at rest, E=mc^2, shouldn't antiparticle masses be negative? If this were true, it would explain a lot. I know there's probably a counter-example that if an electron and positron annihilated, they'd make a photon with a certain energy, but couldn't that energy have come from the momenta of the particles? Or are there non-relativistic experiments that rule out this possibility?
 
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Thanks for the reply, but doesn't there have to be something wrong with the equations or experiment for antimatter mass to be positive?
 
widderjoos said:
I've heard that the dirac equation predicts antiparticles with negative energy. Since for particles at rest, E=mc^2, shouldn't antiparticle masses be negative? If this were true, it would explain a lot. I know there's probably a counter-example that if an electron and positron annihilated, they'd make a photon with a certain energy, but couldn't that energy have come from the momenta of the particles? Or are there non-relativistic experiments that rule out this possibility?

Electron-positron annihilation produces two photons each which has the energy equivalent of the rest mass of the electron or positron (511 kev), possibly with a slight addition due to the momenta.


Also radioactive decay leading to positron emission wouldn't balance if the mass of the positron was negative.
 
Also the equations that describe anti-particles in Quantum Field Theory don't effect the mass of the particle, only its charge. "Solutions of the Dirac equation contained negative energy quantum states. As a result, an electron could always radiate energy and fall into a negative energy state. Even worse, it could keep radiating infinite amount of energy because there were infinitely many negative energy states available. To prevent this unphysical situation from happening, Dirac proposed that a "sea" of negative-energy electrons fills the universe, already occupying all of the lower energy states so that, due to the Pauli exclusion principle no other electron could fall into them. Sometimes, however, one of these negative energy particles could be lifted out of this Dirac sea to become a positive energy particle. But when lifted out, it would leave behind a hole in the sea which would act exactly like a positive energy electron with a reversed charge. These he interpreted as the positron, and called his paper of 1930 A theory of electrons and positrons." - Wikipedia
 
widderjoos said:
Thanks for the reply, but doesn't there have to be something wrong with the equations or experiment for antimatter mass to be positive?

I think your interpretation of E=mc2 is wrong. First off, let's take units with c=1, so it becomes E=m. Then E=m can be thought of as a special case of the relativistic relation E2-p2=m2, where p is the momentum. Therefore it doesn't predict anything about the sign of m.
 
bcrowell said:
I think your interpretation of E=mc2 is wrong. First off, let's take units with c=1, so it becomes E=m. Then E=m can be thought of as a special case of the relativistic relation E2-p2=m2, where p is the momentum. Therefore it doesn't predict anything about the sign of m.

Ok, thanks everyone! I see what I'm doing wrong now.
 

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