Any ideas what makes life, alive?

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The discussion revolves around the transition from chemistry to biology, specifically exploring theories related to abiogenesis and the origins of life. Participants consider various scientific perspectives on how life emerged from non-living chemical processes, touching on cosmological events and biochemical precursors.

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  • One participant inquires about theories explaining how chemistry can evolve into biology, particularly starting from the Big Bang.
  • Another participant mentions "abiogenesis" as a relevant term and suggests a resource for further reading on the topic.
  • Some participants discuss the significance of physical constants and events like supernovae in the formation of elements necessary for life.
  • There is a suggestion that biochemical precursors to life may have been delivered to Earth via comet or asteroid impacts, although this is noted as a working hypothesis rather than established fact.
  • A younger participant shares insights on the relationship between biology and chemistry, emphasizing the trial-and-error nature of scientific inquiry in both fields.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the origins of life, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the importance of abiogenesis and cosmic events, while others highlight the need for citations and further evidence regarding specific claims.

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Some claims regarding the delivery of biochemical precursors via comet impacts lack specific citations and are presented as hypotheses rather than confirmed theories. The discussion includes a mix of speculative ideas and established scientific concepts.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the origins of life, students of biology and chemistry, and individuals curious about the intersection of cosmology and biological sciences.

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I know this forum doesn't allow speculation but is there any good theories in science that explain how chemistry can become biology? At the start of the big bang, there was no such thing as life and now here I am, material created by the big bang that has come together in such a way that allows me to acknowledge not only my own existence but also the existence of the universe... the thing that created me. I created myself it seems.

So what sequence of events allowed chemistry to become alive and aware?
 
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Thanks Evo!
 
You're very welcome, I hope it helps.
 
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If you really mean to begin at the Big Bang as opposed to after chemistry existed, the fact that physical properties such as the gravitational constant and parity laws came out the way they did is critical; they didn't have to be this way. Skipping all of the stuff about energy condensing into matter which then stuck together to make stellar systems, life as we know it still wouldn't exist if not for supernovae explosions in which "modern" elements were formed. Also, there is reasonable although not overwhelming evidence that the biochemical precursors to our life-type, if not the life itself, were delivered to Earth by a comet or asteroid impact as opposed to developing here.
 
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If you really mean to begin at the Big Bang as opposed to after chemistry existed, the fact that physical properties such as the gravitational constant and parity laws came out the way they did is critical; they didn't have to be this way. Skipping all of the stuff about energy condensing into matter which then stuck together to make stellar systems, life as we know it still wouldn't exist if not for supernovae explosions in which "modern" elements were formed. Also, there is reasonable although not overwhelming evidence that the biochemical precursors to our life-type, if not the life itself, were delivered to Earth by a comet or asteroid impact as opposed to developing here.

It would be helpful to provide a citation for the OP relating to theories of abiogenesis via comet.
 
Ryan_m_b said:
It would be helpful to provide a citation for the OP relating to theories of abiogenesis via comet.
Indeed it would. Unfortunately, I've just seen it mentioned here and there on such shows as Daily Planet, in various news snippets with scientist interviews, and the like. I can't cite any particular source, much less a peer-reviewed journal. None of them were crackpot or "off the wall" things, though, and none put it forth as a fact rather than a working hypothesis with evidentiary backup.
Perhaps a real biologist lurking around here can provide such a source.
 
I'm an 11-year-old Year 7 student, so don't put all your faith in me... Despite this, I'm quite a Science enthusiast and a top-set student for the subject. Anyway, Biology questions life and opens new paths to Medical Science, which simultaneously enlightens us with newly-found knowledge of all species and lifeforms on Earth and Earth itself. Chemistry, on the other hand, is a rather trial-and-error sort of concept... You try something new and if it doesn't turn out right, you figure out what went wrong, record your results and re-try it... Biology and Chemistry, under some circumstances, can be quite similar; for example, if you're talking about respiration, the system comes under 'Biology' and the gases, chemicals and compounds come under 'Chemistry.'
 
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