Anyone have experience with gas turbine blade stress analysis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the stress analysis of gas turbine blades, specifically focusing on the aerodynamic forces acting on rotor blades. Participants explore the significance of these forces in relation to other stresses and the potential for further investigation in this area.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a lack of discussion on aerodynamic forces affecting gas turbine blades and questions their significance in stress calculations.
  • Another participant suggests that the relevance of aerodynamic forces varies between rotor and stator blades, indicating that centripetal forces are more significant for rotor blades.
  • A follow-up post clarifies the focus on rotor blades and expresses uncertainty about the magnitude of aerodynamic forces compared to other stresses, questioning whether they merit further investigation.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of considering the change in stiffness of the blade due to internal stresses and how this affects centripetal forces as the blade shape changes, highlighting the limitations of linear analysis in modeling blade behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of aerodynamic forces in stress analysis, with some questioning their relevance while others highlight their potential impact. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which these forces should be considered.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the magnitude of aerodynamic forces and their effects on blade behavior, as well as the dependence on the specific modeling approaches used.

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I'm doing a survey on the topic of "gas turbine blades stress analysis" to see what areas are not focused on in this subject.

I've found that not many people talk about the aerodynamic forces on the blade. Am I missing something, are they included in the calculation or are they too small to consider? Is it worth it to investigate this area?

And does anyone have good resources to study in this area (papers, journals, books,...etc.) , I'm especially interested in the subject of the forces on the blade and how they are distributed.

Thanks in advance.
 
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AeroStudent said:
I've found that not many people talk about the aerodynamic forces on the blade. Am I missing something, are they included in the calculation or are they too small to consider? Is it worth it to investigate this area?
The answer depends on whether you are talking about the rotor or stator blades.

For the rotors, compare the centripetal forces on a typical blade with the aerodynamic forces, and the answer should be fairly obvious. Of course there are no centripetal forces of the stators (often called "guide vanes").
 
Sorry should have specified that I'm talking about rotor blades .

well that's the thing i couldn't find any paper or source that specifies the aerodynamic forces , i know they are very small compared to other stresses but my question is by how much and is it worth it to look into them.
 
It is not just a question of how big the forces are. You also need to consider the change in stiffness of the blade caused by the internal stresses (similar to stretching a guitar string) and the fact that the centripetal forces change as the blade changes shape (because the ##r## in ##mr\omega^2## changes).

If you model a fan blade on a large jet engine as a cantilever beam, and do a linear analysis applying the gas loads as a distributed load along the length of the beam, you will probably get a deflection of the blade tip of the order of 0.5 meters. That is obviously nonsense compared with what happens in real life, and shows how important the nonlinear behavior is.
 

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