Anyone watching Game of Thrones? (spoilers)

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The discussion revolves around the HBO series "Game of Thrones" and its source material, the "A Song of Ice and Fire" novels by George R. R. Martin. Participants share their experiences with both the show and the books, express opinions on character development, pacing of the story, and speculate on future plot developments.

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  • Some participants express enthusiasm for the series and its storytelling quality, comparing it favorably to the books.
  • Others note the complexity of characters and suggest that viewers should not get attached to any specific character due to the unpredictable nature of the plot.
  • Concerns are raised about the pacing of the book series, with some participants feeling frustrated by the slow release of new installments and questioning whether the story will ever be completed.
  • There is speculation about the potential for a catastrophic ending involving a "Red Comet," with differing interpretations of its significance and implications for the story.
  • Some participants argue that the show has diverged from the books and express worries about how the series will conclude without the final books being published.
  • Discussion includes references to specific characters, such as Tyrion Lannister, with some participants expressing confidence in his survival due to his popularity.
  • Several participants share their thoughts on the adaptation process and how closely the show follows the source material.

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding character attachment, the pacing of the story, and the implications of the "Red Comet." There is no consensus on how the series will conclude or the effectiveness of the adaptation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the complexity of the source material and the challenges of adapting it for television, noting that the show may run out of material before the final books are published. There are also discussions about the symbolic interpretations of elements within the story, such as the "Red Comet."

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Fans of "Game of Thrones," readers of "A Song of Ice and Fire," and those interested in discussions about adaptations of literary works into television series may find this thread engaging.

  • #121
Greg Bernhardt said:
I just finished season 1! I'm a huge fan now!
Everyone is going on about it at work.
Everyone said I should like it because I am a huge Lord of the Rings fan but most are not aware I really hated the films when they came out.
Sean Bean was good as Boromir but a lot of it was rubbish.
Sean Bean is in Game of Thrones yes?
 
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  • #124
Does anyone want to opine on the difficult physics involved in hitting a flying dragon with a ballista mounted on a rolling ship?

Writing is getting sloppier the further the series goes from GRRM's books
 
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  • #125
BWV said:
Does anyone want to opine on the difficult physics involved in hitting a flying dragon with a ballista mounted on a rolling ship?
There were a ton of ballista's though. They were going for spread.
 
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Yeah, that seems difficult.

When I was in grad school, I had some friends in econometrics. As first year students they had lots of math problems to do.
One they thought was particularly difficult was to determine the statistical spread of shots from a ship that was rolling, pitching, surging, etc. while shooting at a distant target.

I thought Daenerys should have attacked the ships with dragon at night.
Ships can't aim in the dark.
Anchored ships are sitting targets.
 
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  • #127
Yes or just attacked them from above or behind.
 
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Heh, I liked daneirous (sp? lol) getting a bit of reality. Roll up all cocky thinking you got this, then bam, AA fire. I mean did she honestly think the other guys weren't actively trying to come up with a way to defeat your super weapon?

Re accuracy, only a few arrows hit, vs the amount fired. What I found off was the impact energy of said arrows when tyrion was trying to get off the boat, some would smash nearly half the ship off, others gently embedded in wood.

The tactical/strategic stupidity is what got me though.

Why did cersei not just finish them all off when they were sitting there? At the very least get rid of the last dragon?

How is it you plan an invasion and don't send advance scouts, who might have warned of said AA installations?

Those balistas surely have a maximum engagement height? re configure your dragons to be bombers? Stay high out of range and even just drop rocks. This was an irritation from when the first dragon went down with the ice spear.

If you had scouts, that might have made you bring the siege weapons you had shown just last episode against the zombies, those catapults are indirect fire, vs the balista which is more a direct fire weapon, ie the nature of artillery means it can be behind something that would protect it from the balistas.
 
  • #131
BillTre said:
Anchored ships are sitting targets.

Square rigged ships in general are basically sitting targets compared to modern naval vessels, they are basically stuck running down wind or maybe at best can get to beam reach.
 
  • #132
Still possible so far.
Borg said:
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if Tyrion ends up on the throne because everyone else dies. :oldtongue:
 
  • #133
I added "spoilers" to the thread title so we can talk plainly. They are certainly setting up for Dany vs Jon/Arya confrontation in the end. I think if Jon does survive he's beyond accepting the throne. Some say Arya will, but she is not a ruler and more a lone wolf. It does appear more and more that Tyrion is best suited.
 
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  • #134
After he (re)marries Sansa
 
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  • #136
That explains a lot.
 
  • #137
What's everyone take on the last episode and last season? I felt it was all very rushed and just about tying ends up. Very few real surprises. I thought the battle of winterfell was excellent and the rest very meh.
 
  • #138
Greg Bernhardt said:
I added "spoilers" to the thread title so we can talk plainly. They are certainly setting up for Dany vs Jon/Arya confrontation in the end. I think if Jon does survive he's beyond accepting the throne. Some say Arya will, but she is not a ruler and more a lone wolf. It does appear more and more that Tyrion is best suited.
Well, I have to give you props for that prediction; it's spot on about the direction and the uncertainty it left regarding who would be on the throne. The choice...
Greg Bernhardt said:
What's everyone take on the last episode and last season? I felt it was all very rushed and just about tying ends up. Very few real surprises. I thought the battle of winterfell was excellent and the rest very meh.
IMO, the entire season was rushed due to the decision for it to be only 6 episodes. A lot of fans and reviewers gave it bad marks mostly based on that reason. Setting that aside, I liked it for the most part. Sure it went where you expected (both the season and last episode), but I'm not sure it could have gone any other way, except of course for who got the throne -- that was out of left field and makes no sense.

I read a lot of criticisms about predictability, but here's the problem I see with that: you can only kill Ned Stark once. After that, everyone knows the gloves are off and even deaths/actions that aren't predicted aren't surprising anymore.

It also doesn't mean characters don't follow their personality. With Ned Stark's death, we all knew Joffrey was a sadistic bastard, we just didn't know where the line was (nonexistent). If that scene had happened in any other season, nobody would have been the least bit surprised that Joffrey had him killed.

BTW, you didn't happen to do a Death Pool before the season, did you? I did. For the most part, I over-estimated the number of deaths, but my big misses were predicting Bran to die and Dany to live.
 
  • #139
The ending with Danerys going full Hitler was good, but they did not build enough of an arc for the character
 
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  • #140
As a dog owner, the thing that tugged at me was the dragon flying off with his dead owner/keeper. Poor Drogon :(
 

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