Ap Chemistry: Building (and Breaking) Buffers lab

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a lab assignment in an AP Chemistry course focused on creating a buffer solution with a specific pH and understanding the dilution of glacial acetic acid. Participants explore the necessary calculations and methods for achieving the desired buffer concentration and address challenges related to the dilution process.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states their goal is to create a buffer solution with a pH of 5.0 using glacial acetic acid and sodium acetate, noting the required ratio of acid to base.
  • Another participant confirms the need for assistance with the dilution of glacial acetic acid, specifically from a concentration of 17.4 M to a desired concentration.
  • A participant suggests using algebraic expressions to solve for the volume of acid and water needed for dilution, emphasizing the importance of adding acid to water.
  • Concerns are raised about the additive nature of volumes, with a suggestion that it may be better to fill to the desired final volume rather than relying on simple addition of volumes.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of using weight and volume percentage for preparation, which may involve density considerations, while noting that using molarity seems more straightforward.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for dilution and the mathematical approach to determine the necessary volumes, but there is no consensus on the best method for achieving the desired final volume or the approach to use (molarity vs. weight/volume percentage).

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specifics of dilution calculations and the implications of volume non-additivity. There are also references to different methods of preparing the buffer that may depend on additional information such as density.

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Homework Statement


Overall goals: Your first task will be to make a buffer solution of defined pH. Part of your grade will be based on how close your solution comes to the desired pH. Your second task will be to titrate your buffer using 0.5 M NaOH or 0.5 M HCl until the buffer “breaks”. You will predict what quantity of acid or base is needed to break the buffer (as judged by a color change of a chosen indicator). Y

Materials: You will use one of the three conjugate acid-base pairs listed below to build your buffer. Make sure you choose the right system for the pH you are shooting for.

Homework Equations


glacial acetic acid (pure CH3COOH) Ka = 1.8 x 10-5
sodium acetate NaCH3COO

pH = pKa + log [base]/[acid]

The Attempt at a Solution



CH3COOH --> CH3COO + H

Ka= [H+][CH3COO-]/[CH3COOH] = 1.8 x10^-5
[H+]= 4.85

pH = pKa + log [base]/[acid]
5.0 (chosen pH of buffer) = 4.85 + log [base]/[acid]

.15 = log [base]/[acid]

10^0.15 = [1.41 M]/[1 M]

Homework Statement


Homework Equations



pH = pKa + log [base]/[acid]

The Attempt at a Solution

CH3COOH --> CH3COO + H

Ka= [H+][CH3COO-]/[CH3COOH] = 1.8 x10^-5
[H+]= 4.85

pH = pKa + log [base]/[acid]
5.0 (chosen pH of buffer) = 4.85 + log [base]/[acid]

.15 = log [base]/[acid]

10^0.15 = [1.41 M]/[1 M]

We're doing a lab in my class and we're supposed to make a buffer at a certain pH.

I have decided to make a buffer with a pH of 5.0 using glacial acetic acid (pure CH3COOH) and sodium acetate.

I found that the ratio of acid to base is 1.41 M: 1.0 M and now I'm stuck.

My teacher only has 17.4 M glacial acetic acid and we basically have to dilute it in 75 mL of water. And I'm confused at this point. Help me please with a step by step description on how to do this?
 
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Yes. That's correct.
 
You say you have for glacial acetic acid, only that form of the unnuetratlized acid, and that you have its concentration as 17.4 M. You have what you need. You have something of 17.4 M and you want to dilute it to 1.0 M. What's the problem?

If you use numeric symbols, C for concentration in moles per liter, V for volume in liters, and you want to start with one value of C and find how much volume to add (water in this case) to get a different value for C, this is solvable. Let C1 be starting concentration and C2 be the desired concentration. Also, you want V1 and V2 for volume of starting acid and volume of WATER to add... your way of assigning variables might vary from mine but essential algebra expressions and equations are the same.

Note that in practice you should add the acid TO the water; not the other way around:

\frac{C_{1} V_{1}}{V_{1}+ V_{2}} = C2
 
symbolipoint said:
\frac{C_{1} V_{1}}{V_{1}+ V_{2}} = C2

There is a problem here. V1 plus V2 doesn't have to be what you want, as volumes are not additive. It is much better to fill up to the needed volume.

It is described on the page linked to from my first.
 
Borek said:
There is a problem here. V1 plus V2 doesn't have to be what you want, as volumes are not additive. It is much better to fill up to the needed volume.

It is described on the page linked to from my first.

Very good, Borek! Yes, the volume may need to be adjusted with monitoring to finish. The student may also choose to decide on his preparation using weight & volume percentage, needing the use of density of the glacial acetic acid. The use of just molarity and literes seemed more straightforward.
 

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