Ap1.3.51 are complex numbers, show that

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of complex numbers, specifically focusing on the relationships involving complex conjugates. Participants are exploring the algebraic manipulations necessary to demonstrate these properties, including the expressions involving the conjugate of a quotient and the product of complex numbers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance with a proof involving complex numbers and their conjugates, specifically the expressions $\bar{z}u=\bar{z}\bar{u}$ and $\left(\frac{z}{u}\right)=\frac{\bar{z}}{\bar{u}}$.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the definitions of the complex numbers $u=x_u+y_ui$ and $z=x_z+y_zi$ to explore the algebra.
  • A participant questions the meaning of the bar notation, which is clarified as representing the conjugate of a complex number.
  • There is a suggestion that the original problem may have missing bars and proposes an alternative interpretation of the expressions to show that $\bar{z}u=\overline{z\bar{u}}$ and $\overline{\left(\frac{z}{u}\right)}=\frac{\bar{z}}{\bar{u}}$.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the correct interpretation of the problem, with some suggesting alternative formulations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific expressions to prove.

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There are indications of missing assumptions or potential misinterpretations of the problem statement, particularly concerning the notation and the expressions to be proven.

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$\textsf{ If $z$ and $u$ are complex numbers, show that}$
$$\displaystyle\bar{z}u=\bar{z}\bar{u}
\textit{ and }
\displaystyle \left(\frac{z}{u} \right)=\frac{\bar{z}}{\bar{u}}$$ok couldn't find good example on what this is
and I'm not good at 2 page proof systemsso much help is mahalo
 

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I would begin with:

$$u=x_u+y_ui$$

$$z=x_z+y_zi$$

And the see where the algebra leads. :)
 
MarkFL said:
I would begin with:

$$u=x_u+y_ui$$

$$z=x_z+y_zi$$

And the see where the algebra leads. :)

accually what does the bar over mean
 
karush said:
accually what does the bar over mean

That means "the conjugate of." And so, using my prior definitions:

$$\overline{u}=x_u-y_ui$$

$$\overline{z}=x_z-y_zi$$
 
karush said:
$\textsf{ If $z$ and $u$ are complex numbers, show that}$
$$\displaystyle\bar{z}u=\bar{z}\bar{u}
\textit{ and }
\displaystyle \left(\frac{z}{u} \right)=\frac{\bar{z}}{\bar{u}}$$

There are some bars missing. I think that the problem should be asking you to show that $$\bar{z}u=\overline{z\bar{u}}
\text{ and }
\overline{\left(\frac{z}{u} \right)}=\frac{\bar{z}}{\bar{u}}$$
 

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