Apparently an easy Dynamics question

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The discussion revolves around a dynamics problem involving a sports car losing contact with the road at the crest of a hill. Participants explore the calculations needed to determine the radius of curvature of the road and the forces acting on a driver in a different scenario involving speed and weight. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the solvability of the problem without an equation for the hill's profile.
  • Another suggests using the centripetal acceleration formula and the relationship between forces to find the normal force acting on the driver.
  • A participant provides a conversion for speed from miles per hour to feet per second, indicating the need for consistent units in calculations.
  • There is a discussion about summing forces in the normal direction, with a participant proposing a specific equation involving mass and acceleration.
  • Participants confirm the need to convert speed into feet per second for accurate calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to solving the problem but express uncertainty about the initial conditions and the necessity of unit conversions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete solution to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the hill's profile and the need for consistent units in calculations. The problem's solvability is questioned due to the lack of a defined equation for the hill.

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During a high-speed chase, a 2400-lb sports car traveling
at a speed of 100 mi/h just loses contact with the road as it
reaches the crest A of a hill. a) Determine the radius of
curvature r of the vertical profile of the road at A. b)
Using the value of r found in a part a), determine the
force exerted on a 160-lb driver by the seat of his 3100-lb
car as the car, traveling at a constant speed of 50 mi/h,
passes through A.



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an= v^2/p, p is what we are searching from, but it if we are not given an equation of the hill, it seems unlikely that it can be solved.
p can also be found using derivatives of the position function...


Is this even solve-able?
 

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hi there, fluffypuffin! welcome to pf! :smile:

(try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)
fluffypuffin said:
an= v^2/p, p is what we are searching from

contact is lost when the reaction force is zero …

so do F = ma for the driver, using your centripetal acceleration formula …

what do you get? :smile:
 
You'd have to make some conversions because velocity is in seconds. So
100 mi/h= 146.6 ft/s then
p= 146.6 ^2/ 32.2

Correct?

Thank you so much!
 
looks good! :biggrin:

(are you ok on the other parts?)
 
Nope! Want to help me? :)
 
if we sum the forces in the normal direction
wouldn't it be:
mg- N= m (50)^2/ 668.04

??
 
fluffypuffin said:
mg- N= m (50)^2/ 668.04

yes :smile: (except you need to convert the 50 into ft/s :wink:)
 

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