Appearing out of nothing with defined characteristics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a point particle that appears suddenly in spacetime and the implications of such an occurrence on the laws of physics, particularly regarding conservation of energy and the nature of spacetime in quantum field theory. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical expressions related to particle physics and quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant proposes a scenario where a point particle appears suddenly in spacetime and questions whether it would have the same physical properties at the moment of its appearance as it would later.
  • Another participant argues against the possibility of a particle appearing from nothing, citing the violation of conservation of energy.
  • A later post seeks clarification on the original question, emphasizing the need for clearer definitions and expressions.
  • Further elaboration on the initial question introduces the idea of the particle acting as a 'checkable' unit in spacetime and relates it to the unsolved P versus NP problem in mathematics.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the original question and highlights the importance of energy conservation and symmetries, while also questioning the term 'checkable' unit of spacetime.

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Participants express disagreement on the feasibility of a particle appearing from nothing, with some emphasizing the necessity of conservation laws. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the nature of spacetime and particle behavior.

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Participants reference concepts from quantum field theory, including the roles of time and space as labels rather than operators, which may not be universally understood. There are also unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of terms used in the discussion.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring theoretical physics, particularly in the realms of particle physics, quantum mechanics, and the philosophical implications of particle behavior in spacetime.

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Lets consider a point particle that suddenly appears at a position in spacetime. At the instant the particle appeared, did the particle at time=1/oo s have the same physics its action will have later on that piece of spacetime?

Please answer with few descriptions of each mathematical expression. (Note: My message isn't about the Big Bang, however I agree to it completely)
 
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A particle cannot suddenly appear (from nothing) b/c this violates conservation of energy
 
KyleStreet said:
Lets consider a point particle that suddenly appears at a position in spacetime. At the instant the particle appeared, did the particle at time=1/oo s have the same physics its action will have later on that piece of spacetime?

Please answer with few descriptions of each mathematical expression. (Note: My message isn't about the Big Bang, however I agree to it completely)

be more clear on what you want to say
 
Okay, this is what I meant:

If a point particle suddenly appears as a 'checkable' unit on spacetime, will it be defined simultaneously and act as a commutator for spacetime simultaneously before it disappears t=1/infinity later as the lifespan of the particle is 0 to 1/infinity seconds?

The question is almost the same as the P versus NP problem, which is unsolved in mathematics.
 
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Either what you're asking is way over my head or there are some fundamental mis-understandings here. As has been pointed out energy conservation must be observed (as well as a few other symmetries). Furthermore, in quantum field theory time and space are just labels, they're not operators so they don't have commutation relations. Also, what's a 'checkable' unit of spacetime?
 

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