Applied mathematics vs. pure mathematics in high school?

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The discussion centers on the differences between applied mathematics and pure mathematics in high school education, exploring the advantages of each approach and their prevalence in different educational systems. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on how mathematics is taught and learned, with a focus on theoretical versus practical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that their experience with "Basic Mathematics" by Serge Lang emphasizes proofs and theoretical manipulation over practical applications, contrasting with their high school experience where applied math predominates.
  • Another participant suggests that the most advantageous way to learn mathematics depends on future plans, indicating that those pursuing a mathematics degree will need to be comfortable with both approaches.
  • A participant from New Zealand describes their secondary education system, where applied math focuses on probability and statistics, while pure math covers functions and calculus.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the use of Lang's book in high schools, questioning its popularity in that context.
  • Another participant argues that pure mathematics represents the "purest" way to study the subject, while applied mathematics is focused on practical applications.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of "more popular," with participants clarifying that it could refer to different stakeholders such as school systems, teachers, or students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the distinction between applied and pure mathematics, with no consensus on which approach is more advantageous or prevalent in high school curricula across different countries.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the broad nature of mathematics education and the varying emphases in different educational systems, indicating that the topic is too complex for a singular conclusion.

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Applied mathematics vs. "pure" mathematics in high school?

I've just started working through "Basic Mathematics" by Serge Lang. It immediately struck me, when I skimmed through the pages, that there is a large emphasize on proving things and manipulating expressions, and very little exercises that is applying the mathematical theory to the physical world.

In my country, it's quite the opposite. In high school, about 80% of the exercises are basically applied math. For example, when we learn functions, most of the exercises are of the type:

"The resistance of a metal wire with a definite length is inversely proportional to the square of the wire's diameter. If one reduces the diameter by 25%, with how many percent will the resistance increase" (My own loose, unauthorized translation)

In Basic Mathematics, most of the exercises are of the type:

"Show that any function defined for all numbers can be written as a sum of an even function and an odd function."

The subject of this thread is: What do you think is the most advantegous way of learning mathematics? Would you even make a distinction between these two approaches like I've done, and if so, how would you describe the distinction? Is the latter approach (the "Serge Lang-approach") more popular in America?

(I'm sorry for any eventual language errors, my english proficiency isn't exactly perfect...)
 
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Dowland said:
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The subject of this thread is: What do you think is the most advantegous way of learning mathematics?
This depends on what you're planning to do. If you want a degree in mathematics, you'll need to be comfortable with both approaches. If your plans are for something else, then you won't be as concerned with proving things.
Would you even make a distinction between these two approaches like I've done, and if so, how would you describe the distinction?
While the training for each distinction will have some overlap, the goals are often different. Pure/theoretical mathematicians are not usually concerned with the physical implications of whatever they're working on.
Is the latter approach (the "Serge Lang-approach") more popular in America?
I don't know what you mean by "more popular," so I can't really answer the question. More popular with whom: school systems, teachers, students, research?
 


In NZ - at secondary level - "applied math" means probability and statistics, while "pure math" means functions and calculus. The rest of math is shared between the courses.

The most advantageous way of learning mathematics is any that you find easy which also gets you the grades... i.e. the topic is too broad.
 


Dowland said:
Is the latter approach (the "Serge Lang-approach") more popular in America?

I would be surprised to find Lang's book used for any High-School in the world. I would love to be surprised, though.
 


It's definitely about which way you think you want to study. Pure math and applied math aren't clearly separate disciplines, but a different approach and emphasis.

I personally think that pure mathematics is the "purest" way to study mathematics. Applied math is what it says it is, applying math, but the subject of mathematics is really pure mathematics.
 


Dembadon said:
I don't know what you mean by "more popular," so I can't really answer the question. More popular with whom: school systems, teachers, students, research?
I meant in high school (in general). It would be interesting to know what the high school curriculums in other countries generally put their emphasize on.
 


I suspect Dowland means "more commonly used"... note: a lot of people get the flu-jab but it isn't "popular".
 


Thanks, Simon Bridge! "More commonly used" is exactly what I mean.
 

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