Approximating a Cone: Find Volume, Centering Effects & Linear Lines

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Centering the ellipses in a contour map does not affect the volume of the approximated cone, as the volume is determined solely by the height and cross-sectional area. The discussion clarifies that even if the ellipses are not perfectly aligned, the total volume remains unchanged when the horizontal slices are adjusted. It is emphasized that approximation inherently involves some deviation from perfection, which is acceptable in this context. The conversation also touches on the method of using linear lines from the contour map to estimate the cone's volume, although specific techniques for this approach are not detailed. Overall, the key takeaway is that the orientation and centering of the ellipses do not influence the volume calculation.
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you are given a contour map of a hill from which you are to approximate a cone and hence find volume.
each contour is an ellipse

my question: does centreing the ellipses effect the volume. I am pretty sure it doesn't but i want to verify

also. if i created 4 linear lines from the centered contour map, could i find the volume of the cone and how.

or if you have a better idea of how to approximate a cone that would help.
please and thankyou
 
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brandy said:
my question: does centreing the ellipses effect the volume. I am pretty sure it doesn't but i want to verify

Hi brandy! :smile:

That's right: the volume of a cone depends only on the height and the cross-section-area …

it doesn't matter whether the cone is "upright", you can move the vertex around without changing the volume, so long as you keep it at the same height. :wink:
 
i don't think u get what i mean.
i have 6 ellipses separated by 5 metres in height. they get progressivly smaller (as it is a hill) and they are not centred, (ie the origin is not the same for all the ellipses).
even when they are centred they don't form a perfect elliptical cone.
 
brandy said:
i don't think u get what i mean.
i have 6 ellipses separated by 5 metres in height. they get progressivly smaller (as it is a hill) and they are not centred, (ie the origin is not the same for all the ellipses).
even when they are centred they don't form a perfect elliptical cone.

That's what I thought …

I don't think you're fully grasping the concept of "approximation" …

of course they won't form a perfect elliptical cone … that's what an approximation is …

but you can slide the horizontal "slices" around without changing the total volume.

In other words: centreing the ellipses does not affect the volume. :wink:
 
its just the upright thing sort of threw me.
i thought you were saying that the volume is dependent on the orientation of the shape (grade 3 or 4 maths)
but on retrospect, if i was that dumb and wasnt sure of that, why would i be approximating the volume of a cone, this is at least grade 9 maths.
ok. thanks.
 
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