Approximating a number using linearization methods

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The discussion revolves around approximating the number \(\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}\) using linearization methods. This number is identified as a solution to the equation \(x^{2}=1-x\), and participants explore various approaches to achieve this approximation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants discuss using the Newton method to generate successive approximations, while others question the definition of "methods of linearization." There are suggestions to consider both direct acceptance of the fraction and manual calculation as potential approaches. Additionally, one participant proposes estimating the fraction by adjusting the numerator based on the denominator's proximity to a round number.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with multiple interpretations of linearization methods being explored. Participants have offered various suggestions and approaches, including the Newton-Raphson method and linear approximations near specific points. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but several productive lines of reasoning are being pursued.

Contextual Notes

Some participants emphasize the need to approximate the number without using a calculator, which shapes the nature of the discussion. The constraints of the homework prompt are acknowledged, but no resolutions are provided.

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Homework Statement


The goal is to approximate the number [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] using linearization methods.

Homework Equations


This number is a solution to x[itex]^{2}[/itex]=1-x

The Attempt at a Solution


I was told to use f(x)= x[itex]^{2}[/itex]+x-1 with the Newton method to find x[itex]_{1}[/itex],x[itex]_{2}[/itex],x[itex]_{3}[/itex],x[itex]_{4}[/itex] at x[itex]_{0}[/itex]=2;

The general equation was [itex]\frac{x^{2}_{n}+1}{2x_{n}+1}[/itex] thus yielding:
x[itex]_{1}[/itex] = 1
x[itex]_{2}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{2}{3}[/itex]
x[itex]_{3}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{13}{21}[/itex]
x[itex]_{4}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{610}{987}[/itex]

Using my calculator [itex]\frac{610}{987}[/itex] is extremely close to [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex].
 
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MrCreamer said:

Homework Statement


The goal is to approximate the number [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] using linearization methods.

Homework Equations


This number is a solution to x[itex]^{2}[/itex]=1-x

The Attempt at a Solution


I was told to use f(x)= x[itex]^{2}[/itex]+x-1 with the Newton method to find x[itex]_{1}[/itex],x[itex]_{2}[/itex],x[itex]_{3}[/itex],x[itex]_{4}[/itex] at x[itex]_{0}[/itex]=2;

The general equation was [itex]\frac{x^{2}_{n}+1}{2x_{n}+1}[/itex] thus yielding:
x[itex]_{1}[/itex] = 1
x[itex]_{2}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{2}{3}[/itex]
x[itex]_{3}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{13}{21}[/itex]
x[itex]_{4}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{610}{987}[/itex]

Using my calculator [itex]\frac{610}{987}[/itex] is extremely close to [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex].

So what is your question?
 
How do I approximate [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] without using a calculator using the methods of linearization
 
MrCreamer said:
How do I approximate [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] without using a calculator using the methods of linearization

I guess that depends on what you mean by "methods of linearization". Newton's law uses successive approximations, each of which use tangents to the curve to approximate the root. That seems like a linearization method to me.
 
MrCreamer said:
How do I approximate [itex]\frac{-1+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] without using a calculator using the methods of linearization

First option is to accept the fraction as is.
This is probably intended.
The fraction is the approximation.
No need to convert it to a decimal number.

Second option is to calculate the fraction by hand instead of with a calculator...

Third option, which is perhaps more what you want to know, is to estimate the fraction.
610/987 has a denominator that is 13 points below 1000. This is 1.3%.
So increase 610 by 1.3%, which is an increase of 8 to 618.
Then your fraction is:
$${610 \over 987} \approx {618 \over 1000} = 0.618$$
Is that close to what your calculator tells you?
 
To be more specific, I am supposed to approximate this number using linearization and differentials i.e

i) L(x) ≈ f(a)+[itex]\frac{df(a)}{dx}[/itex](x-a) when f(x) ≈ L(x) only when x is close to a
ii) f(a+dx)≈f(a)+dy where dy=[itex]\frac{df(x)}{dx}[/itex]dx
 
MrCreamer said:
To be more specific, I am supposed to approximate this number using linearization and differentials i.e

i) f(x) ≈ f(a)+[itex]\frac{df(a)}{dx}[/itex](x-a) when f(x) ≈ L(x) only when x is close to a
ii) f(a+dx)≈f(a)+dy where dy=[itex]\frac{df(x)}{dx}[/itex]dx

Yep. That's Newton-Raphson.

Suppose ##a## is your approximation xi and ##x## is your target.
Then ##f(x)## is zero (that's how you defined it).
From there you can deduce x, which will then be the next approximation xi+1.

In other words, this is exactly where the method of Newton-Raphson comes from.
 
MrCreamer said:
To be more specific, I am supposed to approximate this number using linearization and differentials i.e

i) L(x) ≈ f(a)+[itex]\frac{df(a)}{dx}[/itex](x-a) when f(x) ≈ L(x) only when x is close to a
ii) f(a+dx)≈f(a)+dy where dy=[itex]\frac{df(x)}{dx}[/itex]dx

Well, ##x=4## is a point where the square root is easy to calculate so try$$
f(x) = -\frac 1 2 + \frac{\sqrt{x}} 2$$and use the linear approximation near ##x=4##.
 

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